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Old June 23rd, 2014, 02:24 AM   #10641
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https://www.google.it/maps/place/Bol...9ec2bb0115edbf
The only border crossing between Brazil and Peru is very close to the tripoint with Bolivia. However you cannot cross into Bolivia here, the closest border crossing is 50-60km south.

In South America there are many pairs of countries that border each other but don't have border crossings:
- Colombia - Panama
- Colombia - Brazil
- Colombia - Peru
- Venezuela - Guyana
- Suriname - Brazil
- Suriname - French Guyana (there's a ferry, however)
- Suriname - Guyana (there's a ferry, however)

Apart for Colombia-Panama and Venezuela-Guyana, the lack of border crossings isn't related to political issues but to harsh terrain and remoteness.

There is a border crossing between Brazil and Colombia, but the both cities they arent linked to the rest of the countries.

https://maps.google.com/?ll=-4.23189....panoramio.all



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Old June 25th, 2014, 02:59 AM   #10642
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Old June 26th, 2014, 10:59 PM   #10643
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Montenegro to Albania - Bozhaj/Hani i Hotit


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Things were going very slowly, we waited maybe more then 30 minutes at the MNE side. The Albanian was much quicker. Also 2 checkpoints open in AL, only one in MNE


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This was the first time I saw an RKS plate


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Old June 27th, 2014, 08:36 AM   #10644
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Nice trip...

Btw. Montenegrins definitely stole our Licence plate design
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Old June 27th, 2014, 10:57 AM   #10645
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It's cool.


sorry for OT but I think next step would be a global design for plates (colours, position of letters and numbers...)
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Old June 27th, 2014, 10:58 AM   #10646
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Btw. Montenegrins definitely stole our Licence plate design
Well, not so much. Slovak plates are "LL*NNNLL", while Montenegrin are "LL*LLNNN".
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Old June 27th, 2014, 11:19 AM   #10647
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Well, not so much. Slovak plates are "LL*NNNLL", while Montenegrin are "LL*LLNNN".
Yes, I know. I meant the font. But alserrod is right, although I don't like it.


The plates are almost completely similar

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Old June 27th, 2014, 11:44 AM   #10648
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Type of plates which has the same layout as Slovak ones is Montenegrin trailer plate: LL*NNNLL
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Old June 27th, 2014, 02:44 PM   #10649
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sorry for OT but I think next step would be a global design for plates (colours, position of letters and numbers...)
What is it with Europeans and uniformity?!
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Old June 27th, 2014, 03:27 PM   #10650
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What is it with Europeans and uniformity?!
Barriers are vanishing within Europe incredibly quickly. We have common standards for many, many things - car registration plates are a logical extension of that.

The same uniformity allows us to drive around freely in many different countries without fuss. It was actually positively weird to be asked for a Green Card in Albania, Montenegro and Bosnia - no-one else cared.

Another example : I'm going to Croatia on holidays. Now try and find Croatian Kuna in Poland at a reasonable price. The Euro makes life far, far easier.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 03:42 PM   #10651
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Serbia also asks for the green card. Afaik you won't need it in an EU country.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 03:49 PM   #10652
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Sure, but standardizing license plates? The US (and Canada, and Australia....) have been nation-states for far longer than the EU has been in existence and somehow we've never seen the need.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 03:51 PM   #10653
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I like the diversity of the license plates too, you can recognize where a car is from, even without seeing the country band. Of course, some fonts and designs look better, some not so.
I don't like the font they use on Polish plates... I also liked the old Albanian plates with red band more then the new ones with blue band.

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Old June 27th, 2014, 03:56 PM   #10654
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I liked the EU format with the country flag better than the EU format with the EU stars.

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Old June 27th, 2014, 04:04 PM   #10655
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Liked, past tense? Did they change it in Poland, did the EU recommend a change EU-wide...?
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Yes, the top version is now standard in all EU countries. Several countries used the bottom version in the early 2000s, and sometimes decades before. Norway still uses it.
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It's cool.


sorry for OT but I think next step would be a global design for plates (colours, position of letters and numbers...)
IMHO we must get rid of numbers on plates, 7 letters (only bcdfghjklmnpqrstuvxyz) will give more than enough plates for all europe for a really long time (if adding the numbers without forced location even more).

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Yes, the top version is now standard in all EU countries. Several countries used the bottom version in the early 2000s, and sometimes decades before. Norway still uses it.
Well that's just silly. Makes it more difficult to tell one country from another if you're not close enough to read the letters on the Euroband... And you'd think the EU'd have more important things to worry about. But that (the EU) is your problem, not mine.

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I hate Austrian plates with that tiny white space left on the left side. It looks like a mistake.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 05:15 PM   #10660
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Liked, past tense? Did they change it in Poland, did the EU recommend a change EU-wide...?
No, the actual difference is that the "old" format still legally required the oval with the country code. The version with the stars is accepted by all EU countries in comparison. You can still have plates without the EU flag legally, and I think there's nothing actually stopping countries like Poland using the flag rather than the stars - but then you need to have an oval sticker on your car. It's nothing to do with conformity, and everything to do with making life easier. The EU simply mandated that licence plates with the EU flag and country code must be accepted.

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Well that's just silly. Makes it more difficult to tell one country from another if you're not close enough to read the letters on the Euroband... And you'd think the EU'd have more important things to worry about.
It's not really relevant in today's Europe where a car is from. I would completely support a system of EU-wide vehicle registration - with randomised plates. Such a system would almost totally eliminate problems with police/random idiots targeting foreigners, just like it did in BiH.

An EU-wide system would also mean that I wouldn't have to carry those stupid vehicle registration documents everywhere.
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