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Old June 27th, 2014, 05:18 PM   #10661
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An EU-wide system would also mean that I wouldn't have to carry those stupid vehicle registration documents everywhere.
It's been replaced by a credit card format card in the Netherlands.

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Old June 27th, 2014, 05:25 PM   #10662
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It's not really relevant in today's Europe where a car is from. I would completely support a system of EU-wide vehicle registration - with randomised plates.
C'mon, that sounds boring.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 05:36 PM   #10663
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It's been replaced by a credit card format card in the Netherlands.

And in Pennsylvania you just carry a card, too. Card rather than plastic, but about that size. No inconvenience whatsoever to just leave it in the glovebox until it's needed...which hopefully will be when you renew it. Been that way as long as I can remember, both here and in New Jersey, where I grew up and learn to drive. So uniformity of license plates doesn't seem to be a prerequisite to simple and, um, non-cumbersome registration documents. :-)
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Old June 27th, 2014, 05:39 PM   #10664
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Not so bothered about harmonised plates (although it would stop the guardia civil targeting me for my Gibraltar plates), but they should harmonise tax and inspections so if your car is registered in one country you can keep the inspection up to date in another.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 05:44 PM   #10665
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I'm not clear how that comes up. Just curious. (Because here you get your car inspected in your home state and no other state you ever enter cares.)

EDIT: I think I see what you mean....
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Old June 27th, 2014, 07:33 PM   #10666
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No, the actual difference is that the "old" format still legally required the oval with the country code. The version with the stars is accepted by all EU countries in comparison. You can still have plates without the EU flag legally, and I think there's nothing actually stopping countries like Poland using the flag rather than the stars - but then you need to have an oval sticker on your car. It's nothing to do with conformity, and everything to do with making life easier. The EU simply mandated that licence plates with the EU flag and country code must be accepted.

It's not really relevant in today's Europe where a car is from. I would completely support a system of EU-wide vehicle registration - with randomised plates. Such a system would almost totally eliminate problems with police/random idiots targeting foreigners, just like it did in BiH.

An EU-wide system would also mean that I wouldn't have to carry those stupid vehicle registration documents everywhere.
I'm against anymore EU-wide systems and legislations. Enough is enough already.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 07:41 PM   #10667
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Well, you better contact your mobile operator pretty soon then, or you'll risk paying less money because of EU-wide legislation!
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Old June 27th, 2014, 07:45 PM   #10668
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IMHO we must get rid of numbers on plates, 7 letters (only bcdfghjklmnpqrstuvxyz) will give more than enough plates for all europe for a really long time (if adding the numbers without forced location even more).

For example:

0000000
B2DC4D3
ZZZZZZ
This is a crap. I feel more comfortable about logical system. License plates should be rememberable. Bunch of characters would not.
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Old June 27th, 2014, 09:16 PM   #10669
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I thought this ws the border crossing thread, not the license plate one.

Nice pics of the MNE-AL border. I am very curious if there are any pics of this crossing from the 80s. Very sure there where not many cars there then
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Old June 27th, 2014, 10:12 PM   #10670
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I thought this ws the border crossing thread, not the license plate one.
Then y not have some one recreate a new tread for licence plate then?
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Old June 27th, 2014, 10:16 PM   #10671
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There are two. Here: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/forumdisplay.php?f=7
There used to be three, but one mysteriously disappeared.

But going off topic for a bit, with moderators participating ;-) , is not exactly unprecedented around here....
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Old June 27th, 2014, 10:55 PM   #10672
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Not so bothered about harmonised plates (although it would stop the guardia civil targeting me for my Gibraltar plates), but they should harmonise tax and inspections so if your car is registered in one country you can keep the inspection up to date in another.
Vehicle controls will remain, specially if there is a different tax system and moreover if there are smuggling evidences.


Furthermore... within Spain there are several territories with different taxes. Allowed goods are the same as if you come from the other corner of the world and in any airport or harbour you may go to goods to declare or nothing to declare even if it is a domestic journey.
Penalty will be the same if you are importing some goods with tax evasion and haven't declared them, either if you bought them in the same country.
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Old June 28th, 2014, 02:14 AM   #10673
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What is your opinion ,where the roads are better in Albania or Macedonia ?
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Old June 28th, 2014, 02:35 AM   #10675
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I didn't drive that many to be able to give an exact opinion

For a country that was locked down some decades, people not having the right to own cars, roads catastrophic, Albania made huge progresses.
There are many works still going on.

My pictures in the Albanian thread here

Macedonia was in good shape where I drove, some roads good, some average, but no problems...
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Old June 28th, 2014, 04:05 AM   #10676
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Nice pics of the MNE-AL border. I am very curious if there are any pics of this crossing from the 80s. Very sure there where not many cars there then
I seem to recall that the border crossing there was either completely closed, or open only for a very restricted amount of traffic. I've forgotten the details, but I have a feeling that it may only have been open for a limited amount of goods traffic.
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Old June 28th, 2014, 04:33 AM   #10677
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It wasn't closed, but you couldn't enter Albania just like that, let alone by car. You had to call a taxi cab to pick you up at the border and take you where you wanted to go. At least that's what I read in a book written by a Yugoslav journalist. Unfortunately my mom lent it to someone and never got it back.
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Old June 28th, 2014, 05:57 PM   #10678
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Not so bothered about harmonised plates (although it would stop the guardia civil targeting me for my Gibraltar plates), but they should harmonise tax and inspections so if your car is registered in one country you can keep the inspection up to date in another.
Sorry, not a good idea. It would meen speed limits on German motorway. Germans have more restrictive controls.

On the other hand if we bring the technical checks to German snandard, there will be a lot of unnecessary costs for other nations.
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Old June 29th, 2014, 12:30 AM   #10679
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No inconvenience whatsoever to just leave it in the glovebox until it's needed
Not a good idea if the car gets stolen.
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Old June 29th, 2014, 12:40 AM   #10680
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Hmm. My parents both left their registrations in their gloveboxes all the time, so I'll blame them for the habit. (Although, unlike Verso, I won't bash my mother over the head. )

On the other hand, I can't see that it makes all that big a difference. Thief's not going to be able to use a registration that has my name on it. I think....
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