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Old July 5th, 2014, 12:53 PM   #10741
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A small question to our Slovenian/Croatian posters on here - can one of you find out if it's possible for locals living near the border to get a pass that allows them to cross the border at any point?

I've got a feeling that the locals in Bregana/Obrežje have one that allows them to cross at the bridge in the village rather than at the border crossing.
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Old July 5th, 2014, 02:21 PM   #10742
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Old July 5th, 2014, 11:27 PM   #10743
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Camedo (CH) -> Ribellasca (I) road crossing photographed from train running parallel to it.
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1. Swiss customs booths


2. Road bridge between the two countries (over Ri degli Orti if I interpret it right from google)


3. Italian customs house, difficult to take photo b/c of full vegetation plus there is some reflection on the pic, like a ghost


4. Now it's definitely Italia
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Old July 6th, 2014, 12:20 PM   #10744
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Not exactly the border crossing, but border anyways.

CAN-USA (Boundary bay):

The border stone:












Facing USA:



Facing Canada:
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Old July 6th, 2014, 05:46 PM   #10745
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Who wants to live just beside the border?
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Old July 6th, 2014, 06:00 PM   #10746
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Smugglers?
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Old July 6th, 2014, 10:14 PM   #10747
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Why would a place just beside the border be any worse than any other place? At least when assuming two relatively friendly nations, such as USA and Canada?
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Old July 6th, 2014, 10:37 PM   #10748
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Living close to a border can be beneficial. For example having the opportunity to purchase goods at lower prices across the border.
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Old July 6th, 2014, 11:31 PM   #10749
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Note the difference:

USA-Mexico border


USA-Canada border
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old July 7th, 2014, 12:28 AM   #10750
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Why would a place just beside the border be any worse than any other place? At least when assuming two relatively friendly nations, such as USA and Canada?
Because you are more exposed to illegal trespassing. You don't want illegal immigrants hiding in your backyard, for instance...
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Old July 7th, 2014, 12:49 AM   #10751
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Because you are more exposed to illegal trespassing. You don't want illegal immigrants hiding in your backyard, for instance...
Oh yes, those pesky illegal Canadian immigrants. Constantly saying sorry all the time!

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Old July 7th, 2014, 12:52 AM   #10752
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Well, there are even some houses and a public library divided by the US-Canada border. In some rural areas it's possible to cross that border without being noticed, although it's technically illegal. It's not anything close to borders such USA-Mexico or Spain-Morocco, that are heavily guarded and you can be shot if you try to cross illegally.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 12:59 AM   #10753
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Ancient border marker (1823) between Savoy and France, at ~2300 m near Lac de Bellety (Vallée Etroite), now inside France.

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Old July 7th, 2014, 02:45 AM   #10754
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Plenty of people do....
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Old July 7th, 2014, 03:28 AM   #10755
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A small question to our Slovenian/Croatian posters on here - can one of you find out if it's possible for locals living near the border to get a pass that allows them to cross the border at any point?

I've got a feeling that the locals in Bregana/Obre˛je have one that allows them to cross at the bridge in the village rather than at the border crossing.
Ok, I've found some info (it was very easy to find actually). I don't think they can cross the border at any point, but at certain points. However, only with legitimate reasons. Throw this into Google Translate.
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Old July 7th, 2014, 09:40 AM   #10756
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Perfect, thank you!

I wondered because this fat Croatian border guard chased me away from an unofficial crossing in Bregana, but let some locals through without fuss. Apparently wanting to look at the border crossing wasn't allowed

I think this border pass explains why the police aren't really bothering to control the border away from official border crossings - there can't be many people hanging around the border in rural areas
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Old July 7th, 2014, 02:16 PM   #10757
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Apparently wanting to look at the border crossing wasn't allowed
You should be able to look at it as long as you don't cross the border. But yes, it's usually not a good idea to get too close.
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Old July 8th, 2014, 11:47 PM   #10758
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Because you are more exposed to illegal trespassing. You don't want illegal immigrants hiding in your backyard, for instance...
That's probably a Hellenic point of view, maybe you just haven't got your share of nice neighbours (no offence anyone...!) but I can only assume that U.S.Americans and Canadians don't see it this way.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 12:18 AM   #10759
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That's probably a Hellenic point of view, maybe you just haven't got your share of nice neighbours (no offence anyone...!) but I can only assume that U.S.Americans and Canadians don't see it this way.
Well, after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, the border to Canada was actually a subject of debates - as potential backdoor for Islamist terrorists wanting to sneak in ...
I have never crossed that border but heard from others that in the 1990's still, a simple driver's license was sufficient to pass - and things have gotten a lot stricter since.
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Old July 9th, 2014, 01:17 AM   #10760
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Well, after the terrorist attacks of 9/11, the border to Canada was actually a subject of debates - as potential backdoor for Islamist terrorists wanting to sneak in ...
I have never crossed that border but heard from others that in the 1990's still, a simple driver's license was sufficient to pass - and things have gotten a lot stricter since.
I heard this change was implemented quite quickly, meaning some people had to rush to get passports to cross when one was not needed before.

On the subject of locals-only border crossings, are there any NEXUS only crossings on the US-Canada border?
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