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Old July 11th, 2014, 10:07 PM   #10781
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You should've seen smuggling of coffee, clothes etc. from Italy and Austria into Yugoslavia.
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Old July 11th, 2014, 11:27 PM   #10782
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I remember times in early 90s when it was pretty common to see different families in cars in closest rest areas near border crossings, attempting to hide all pieces of risky goods somewhere in the car or luggage.
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Old July 11th, 2014, 11:49 PM   #10783
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There is still a lot of alcohol smuggling from Finland and Sweden (EU) to Norway (not EU). There is no systematic control but random checks that may occur even on small forest trails barely passable by car, as well as the E6 (the only motorway crossing the Norwegian border).

Many tourists don't even know the Norwegian import limits, which are pretty strict.
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Old July 11th, 2014, 11:54 PM   #10784
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http://www.toll.no/templates_TAD/New...epslanguage=no

People try to smuggle thousands of liters of beer or tens of thousands of cigarettes into Norway frequently.

One guy attempted to smuggle 2,400 liters of beer into Norway. http://www.toll.no/upload/Bilder/bes...mai%202014.jpg
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Old July 12th, 2014, 12:02 AM   #10785
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One guy attempted to smuggle 2,400 liters of beer into Norway. http://www.toll.no/upload/Bilder/bes...mai%202014.jpg
obviously from Poland
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Old July 12th, 2014, 01:34 AM   #10786
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seeing the pallets full of such delicious and correctly priced beer like that at any Biedronka made me want to do the same thing to Canada
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Old July 12th, 2014, 02:17 AM   #10787
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Polish "foreign aid" to poor Norwegians who have to stand the subarctic darkness and/or cold with out the help of good øl.

Ok, currently at Oslo 22C/81F and barely dark due to summer, but what about Kirkenes and what about december?
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Old July 12th, 2014, 09:34 AM   #10788
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There is still a lot of alcohol smuggling from Finland and Sweden (EU) to Norway (not EU). There is no systematic control but random checks that may occur even on small forest trails barely passable by car, as well as the E6 (the only motorway crossing the Norwegian border).

Many tourists don't even know the Norwegian import limits, which are pretty strict.
The control is not very systematic.

The northernmost alcohol store in the EU is located in a tiny Finnish village of Nuorgam at the Norwegian border. Its sales figures are astronomical, and most clients are Norwegians. The sales of the Norwegian monopoly shop in Vadsø dropped more than 30 per cent after the shop in Nuorgam was opened. This would not be possible without rather loose a control at the border. Somebody is caught occasionally, but that does not ruin the business case.
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Nuorgam ... Vadsø
These towns are like 2.5 hours apart. The length people go through to get drunk.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 10:01 AM   #10790
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It gets cheaper as you go south. The Norwegians get their booze from Sweden, the Swedish from Denmark (they're always drunk on that ferry) and the Danish from Germany. (large booze cash and carry in Puttgarden)
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Old July 12th, 2014, 11:33 AM   #10791
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These towns are like 2.5 hours apart. The length people go through to get drunk.
Well... No. For a large population in the northern Norway, Nuorgam is closer than Vadsø.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 12:20 PM   #10792
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It gets cheaper as you go south. The Norwegians get their booze from Sweden, the Swedish from Denmark (they're always drunk on that ferry) and the Danish from Germany. (large booze cash and carry in Puttgarden)
And Poles from the Czech Republic
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Old July 12th, 2014, 12:52 PM   #10793
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And Poles from the Czech Republic
To me, Czech are more soft-booze (beer, wine) oriented. But their beer is indeed the best
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Old July 12th, 2014, 05:03 PM   #10794
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Old July 12th, 2014, 06:56 PM   #10795
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Mexico has such checkpoints deep within their territory as well.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 07:11 PM   #10796
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Well, what is the law? I was ready to click "like" - particularly if those are Arizona state officials as opposed to federal (which isn't clear) - but when I read the article for an answer to that question (if they're state or federal), and didn't get an answer so then read the comments....

My instinct as an educated American citizen who knows the basics of our Constitution is to assume that stopping everyone, that far from the border, is illegal (particularly if state officials are doing it), just like the NSA's practices are outrageously illegal...just like the customs agent who asked me where I was spending the night when I entered Maine from Canada last October was probably out of line. (I had an urge to say, "I'm entering my own country; is that any of your business?" But I didn't.) But that's my instinct. I don't actually know.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 07:21 PM   #10797
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And I wonder in what extend it is legal in Europe. In both France and Germany and on one occasion in Belgium I get stopped a lot by customs pretty far inland. And apart from the regular stop and search procedures I get asked a lot of questions as well. "where did you come from, where are you going, how long have you been here, how long have you been there"...

Areas I got or get stopped on a regular basis are...

France: Rouen, Paris, Lyon, Bordeaux, Orleans, Strasbourg, Thionville, Dunkerque, Calais, Boulogne, Abbeville, Perpignan, ...

Germany: Cologne, Munich, Rosenheim, Mannheim, Wiesbaden, Hanover...

Belgium: Jabbeke
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Old July 12th, 2014, 07:25 PM   #10798
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Orléans? Can't get much farther from a border than that....
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Old July 12th, 2014, 07:55 PM   #10799
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Same with Rouen. But both places are on a major route from Spain to northern Europe and UK. Spanish trucks everywhere. Customs usually await you at the toll booths, although one time between Valence and Lyon I got treated by 5 motorbikes surrounding me and escorting me to the next exit where they did the search. But French law enforcement officers are very correct and friendly and always in for a laugh and a joke and handshakes after, unlike those German no-humor-miserable-gestapo dickheads.
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Well, Rouen's reasonably close to a port of entry. (Is it one itself, actually?) But Orléans is nowhere near anything of that sort other than international airports. And if proximity to airports constitutes proximity to a border, there's not much that's off limits to customs and immigration checks.

Come to think of it, the suspect in the Brussels Jewish museum shooting who was arrested at Marseille (after having traveled the length of France)...was that customs or regular police? I know I heard they were looking for drugs and sort of lucked out by stumbling on him and his cache of guns....
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