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Old July 12th, 2014, 10:30 PM   #10821
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You should add, that you are kidding. Work is also a perfect place for humor in Germany.
Actually it was sarcastic
I am happy though that at my current place of work we are having fun often.

But at my first place I worked here it was horrible, it was exactly as I described it. My team leader told me I am not allowed to browse the Internet, I told him, I have to read/write an E-Mail or make a money transfer, at least, he said I have to do this at home (it doesn't matter if it's urgent or not). He also told me, if I would stay longer then 10 minutes at the toilet I have to check out the time from my work time. And that for having fun, there are organized team events.

I was shocked, it was a horrible time for me, I got depressed, I wanted to go back home...

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Old July 12th, 2014, 10:34 PM   #10822
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It's called democracy. And Britain does not belong to Europe. Britain belongs to Britain.
Maybe Scotland does not belong to Britain but to "Schengen"..... Call it democracy or just crazy...
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Old July 12th, 2014, 10:35 PM   #10823
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A referendum will tell.
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Old July 12th, 2014, 11:58 PM   #10824
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Yes, it is allowed. The ID is like you driver's license.
In Finland though the driver's license is also the ID for all purposes (proving your identity to police, voting, withdrawing cash from bank account and so on) - so many people who drive a car and don't travel abroad actually don't have any other kind of ID at all. It actually came as a surprise that in many EU countries it is not so.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 12:11 AM   #10825
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Merkel rulezzzzz!

Seriously now, Schengen is the best thing to ever come out, because of the EU.
If the EU wasn't founded in the first place, I doubt the Schengen Area would have ever been made. The Schengen Agreement should last forever... It must include all European countries in the future.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 12:43 AM   #10826
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Well, what is the law? I was ready to click "like" - particularly if those are Arizona state officials as opposed to federal (which isn't clear) - but when I read the article for an answer to that question (if they're state or federal), and didn't get an answer so then read the comments....

My instinct as an educated American citizen who knows the basics of our Constitution is to assume that stopping everyone, that far from the border, is illegal (particularly if state officials are doing it), just like the NSA's practices are outrageously illegal...just like the customs agent who asked me where I was spending the night when I entered Maine from Canada last October was probably out of line. (I had an urge to say, "I'm entering my own country; is that any of your business?" But I didn't.) But that's my instinct. I don't actually know.
I got caught at one of these once. It was in White River Junction VT where I-89 and I-91 meet each other, they were stopping everyone, asking all kinds of crazy questions and wanted my driver's license (pre-passport time, probably 2006 ish). I was really surprised and confused as to the legality of that.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 10:30 AM   #10827
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There'll most probably be a referendum soon. Time will tell if this is what the British people want. If they don't then it is not happening. It's called democracy. And Britain does not belong to Europe. Britain belongs to Britain. When they entered Normandy in 1944, they did not enter to surrender to Europe!
There is no democracy.... After all, Scotland was annexed to England without a referendum, centuries ago. It's all about political will and decisions. Democracy does not really exist. Because you vote once in 4 years, it doesn't mean you have control over anything at all. It doesn't even matter whom you vote for. You may even vote for UKIP and then Nigel is bribed and decides to change his anti-EU rhetoric. Don't confuse pseudo-democracy with the concept of democracy that doesn't really exist.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 10:30 AM   #10828
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Old July 13th, 2014, 11:08 AM   #10829
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There is no democracy.... After all, Scotland was annexed to England without a referendum, centuries ago. It's all about political will and decisions. Democracy does not really exist. Because you vote once in 4 years, it doesn't mean you have control over anything at all. It doesn't even matter whom you vote for. You may even vote for UKIP and then Nigel is bribed and decides to change his anti-EU rhetoric. Don't confuse pseudo-democracy with the concept of democracy that doesn't really exist.
I'm taking this to the Roadside Rest Area.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 02:18 PM   #10830
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In Germany too.
Actually, no you don't. There's an obligation to identify yourself if requested, but you don't actually have to have the ID on you at the time.

In practice, the Germans will ask first of all for a form of ID if you don't have a passport/ID card. That means a driving licence for most people. If you don't have that, then they will ask for a name/address and try and check it out via their own systems. If you can't provide a German address, you don't have any form of ID and you don't seem to have EU citizenship - then there's a chance that you'll get detained until you prove your right to be there.

In my experience, they were always happy with a Polish driving licence, though with a question as to why I had a PL licence and not a GB one.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 02:55 PM   #10831
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You are right. But you could be detained. So it is recommended to have an ID at all time
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Old July 13th, 2014, 02:57 PM   #10832
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Do the Germans have the right to detain you without plausible cause??
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Old July 13th, 2014, 03:23 PM   #10833
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Here's a question for which I don't have an answer: last week I flew from München Airport to London Gatwick Airport.

On departure from München, there was customs control for exiting Germany (had to show my ID card or passport). While entering UK at London Gatwick there was another customs control (for entering UK).

On departure from London Gatwick there was no customs control (for exiting UK), but just at München Airport, for entering Germany.

Why there was no control for exiting UK, while there is one for exiting Germany? Same thing happened to me in 2009 while leaving USA (no control on exiting the country).
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Old July 13th, 2014, 03:25 PM   #10834
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Old July 13th, 2014, 03:29 PM   #10835
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I always had two ID checks when I flew to a non-Schengen-country, e.g. Germany-USA, Germany-Romania, Germany-Canada, Austria-Romania.
There are also ID checks Germany-Italy (not always).
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Old July 13th, 2014, 04:13 PM   #10836
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Do the Germans have the right to detain you without plausible cause??
Yes, if you can't prove your identity to the satisfaction of the person asking. There's not really such a concept as "plausible cause" in Schengen, as border controls can be carried out anywhere at any time.

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Here's a question for which I don't have an answer
Basically, the UK doesn't have systematic exit checks. There are sometimes checks (especially at Dover and Heathrow), but it's not routine. They were supposed to introduce exit passport checks, but I think the issue of not having separate domestic/international airside lounges has put a stop to that idea.

The lack of exit checks has always been an odd one, especially now with the over-the-top paranoia of the UK border security.
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Old July 13th, 2014, 06:34 PM   #10837
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Why there was no control for exiting UK, while there is one for exiting Germany? Same thing happened to me in 2009 while leaving USA (no control on exiting the country).
US, Canada and I guess also UK have no exit check, that's like East-Germany level stuff

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In my experience, they were always happy with a Polish driving licence, though with a question as to why I had a PL licence and not a GB one.
Was the answer "I am hoping they issue the speeding ticket to my real name, Prawo Jazdy"? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/n...nd/7899171.stm
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Old July 13th, 2014, 06:43 PM   #10838
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There is no democracy.... After all, Scotland was annexed to England without a referendum, centuries ago. It's all about political will and decisions. Democracy does not really exist. Because you vote once in 4 years, it doesn't mean you have control over anything at all. It doesn't even matter whom you vote for. You may even vote for UKIP and then Nigel is bribed and decides to change his anti-EU rhetoric. Don't confuse pseudo-democracy with the concept of democracy that doesn't really exist.
Not taking away from your larger point (which we could argue about...or not), but didn't Scotland (or its leaders) ask for the creation of the United Kingdom because it was in financial trouble or something?
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Old July 13th, 2014, 06:45 PM   #10840
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Not taking away from your larger point (which we could argue about...or not), but didn't Scotland (or its leaders) ask for the creation of the United Kingdom because it was in financial trouble or something?
I took it to the Roadside Rest Area before the lot gets deleted again...
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