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Old August 13th, 2014, 08:08 PM   #11061
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Or just a mistake with languages. ETA is Finnish for EEA (Euroopan Talousalue, European Economic Area).
Yes. I am sorry about the confusion.
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Old August 13th, 2014, 10:28 PM   #11062
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Could I ask for a huge favour from anyone living in Croatia or Slovenia?

I want to go back to Restoran Kalin to finally eat dinner inside there, but I remember that it was closed last summer around this time. Would someone be kind enough to call them to check if they're open or closed?

http://www.restorankalin.com/location/ - the numbers are here.

I promise to take pictures inside if it's open
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You'd be best asking these questions at a Croatian Skybar or something. Not here.
actually i called them, but nobody answered. it seems that they are closed only at mondays. also, i read that old owner died in hunting, and after that some other people took over the restaurant, after that quality dropped down.
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Old August 14th, 2014, 01:56 AM   #11063
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actually i called them, but nobody answered. it seems that they are closed only at mondays. also, i read that old owner died in hunting, and after that some other people took over the restaurant, after that quality dropped down.
Thank you so much, probably means they're closed for summer holidays again

When did the old owner die? I think I met the current owner last year (we only had time for coffee), but we didn't really have time to stay and talk.
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Old August 14th, 2014, 03:19 AM   #11064
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Same here .

But I believe MattiG wanted to say EFTA.
Switzerland isn't "almost EFTA", it's properly its member.
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Old August 14th, 2014, 11:18 PM   #11065
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actually i called them, but nobody answered. it seems that they are closed only at mondays. also, i read that old owner died in hunting, and after that some other people took over the restaurant, after that quality dropped down.
Okay, I went there anyway to have a look because of the diabolical situation on the A1 today, and explored the local area. The restaurant is shut UNTIL TOMORROW. I leave tomorrow morning

Anyway, some comments about the Bregana area -

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Br...00ad5153373812 - this guard hut is now unmanned. Previously, there was someone there all the time, but now, nothing. A local told me that they're only there now on an irregular basis and that they aren't being bothered for documents anymore.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.8425...xs0yhr76sw!2e0 - likewise, this guard hut is also empty and not being used. You can actually drive across the border near there without any fuss whatsoever - the road is wide open and only a very small sign warns you about the Slovenian border. I actually drove across by mistake - then drove back and took pictures. No sign of any interest whatsoever from Croatian/Slovenian border guards.

The controls at the actual border crossing in Bregana are incredibly light. Still no sign of the 'one stop control', but it might as well be a Schengen border already.

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Elsewhere, Neum - entirely as I reported before. No interest whatsoever from the BiH police and customs (who were nowhere to be seen, as usual), and the Croatian police were incredibly relaxed.

I won't manage to upload it until I get home, but I've found something very interesting in Gabela Polje, near Metkovic. There's a petrol station only accessible from Croatia, but located (just) on Bosnian territory. Prices are in KM, but what makes it incredibly curious is the lack of access from Bosnian territory. The whole area is incredibly poorly controlled - no sign of any video control, patrols or anything else. There's an abandoned police box too, but in general, the entire area seems to be completely open. I'm not sure how Croatia can join Schengen with such wide open borders.

Nova Sela is a great border crossing, barely any waiting time at all. The Bosnian side (Bileca?) is completely unfinished - it looks like they don't even have the facilities to deal with imports and exports yet. Interesting, Croatia doesn't have a radiation detector there.
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Old August 15th, 2014, 12:19 AM   #11066
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Road_UK, can you give me some information about clearing Customs for going to Norway?

Why do you clear the goods out of the EU in Dover and not on the border with Norway? Also, what stops you from not actually exporting them?

Are you obliged to report to the Customs authority of the last EU state you're in before exporting them?
I actually do clear them on the border with Norway as well - as on any border outside the EU I am travelling to - in my job only Norway and Switzerland so far.

In Dover I go to the freight handler office first. My boss will already have faxed the paperwork with the goods, VAT estimates and quantities. I get the official T1 form from that office and I walk over to UK HM Customs and they are going to clear it for leaving the EU. I get a stamp on the T1 form. On the Norwegian border with Sweden I have to go a freight handling office again. They provide me with a new form which I then take to Norwegian customs, and the goods are now cleared to enter Norway. Same procedure on the French-Swiss border. I have nothing to do with customs of the last EU country I was in as it already has been cleared by the British. Earlier, before entering Switzerland I had to get it stamped by the French as well. >That was a pain in the ass and lots of walking. First park the van at the crossing in St Louis-Basel, then freight handling office, then French customs, then walk back to freight handling office, then walk over to Swiss customs, then back to van and drive to passport control. But since about 5 years ago I just needed a Swiss stamp upon entering.
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Old August 16th, 2014, 01:10 AM   #11067
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Some shots of border crossing Udvar/Dubosevica (H/HR):

First shot shows hungarian check point for the opposite direction (for entering Hungary)


Therefore, we must turn to the right and enter the appropriate check point. Both are parallel, separated by a building


Here is a check point for leaving Hungary


Croatian check point... much smaller than hungarian


Croatian speed limits
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Old August 16th, 2014, 01:17 AM   #11068
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And now shots form border crossing between Croatia and BiH, Slavonski Brod/(Bosanski) Brod:

First shot shows croatian check point


This one is after river bridge (which is between croatian and bosnan check points)


BiH check point (in fact there is Republic of Srpska)


As you see, very simple and neglected infrastructure of border control
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Old August 16th, 2014, 08:53 AM   #11069
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I see it is small, but I don't see it is more or less neglected then Hungarian.
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Old August 16th, 2014, 01:57 PM   #11070
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I wrote what are my feelings. Unfortunately I couldn`t take picture on site. There it looks worse than outside. When I was leaving BiH there , nobody stopped me to check my ID or so. I just went over not stopping
What was funny on croatian side, all cars (croatian) stood in queue on line for EU citizenship etc. and no one car on line for "all passports"! I went there, so I didn`t have to stay in queue at least 15 minutes
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Old August 16th, 2014, 07:02 PM   #11071
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LOL, they are just proud of EU
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Old August 16th, 2014, 08:47 PM   #11072
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I doubt. They see "EU" and go there without much thinking.
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Old August 16th, 2014, 08:49 PM   #11073
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I wrote what are my feelings. Unfortunately I couldn`t take picture on site. There it looks worse than outside. When I was leaving BiH there , nobody stopped me to check my ID or so. I just went over not stopping
It is true. Many of the BiH border crossings just aren't set up well - for instance, Ivanica where they're working out of a portacabin despite it being an international crossing. Brcko, Brod and Gradiska are also completely rubbish - instead of coming to an agreement with Croatia over a joint facility, they choose to maintain a completely inadequate facility themselves.

In fairness, not all of the Croatian ones are great, but when you compare the size of the facilities at Brcko and Brod with the BiH counterparts, it's just painful. There's really no excuse for it - there's a large car park next to the Brcko crossing that could be levelled and used as a checkpoint.

Whatever happened to the plan to build a proper checkpoint at Ivanica?

What makes it even worse is their behaviour in Neum. I understand waving cars through, but I actually saw the BiH border police sitting around in their office drinking coffee while leaving the border completely open. What possible reason can there be for not even controlling entry with a visual check?

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I noticed this too! It wasn't just Croatian, but plenty of tourists doing the same - Schengen seems to have made people stupid. I must have saved about 15 minutes at Klek by doing just that - people were queuing up quite far back, but by overtaking them in the lorries lane and then taking the absolutely empty "all passports" line, I jumped the entire queue. The girl working there even remarked that people couldn't read.
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Old August 16th, 2014, 10:19 PM   #11074
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so you complain because there are no strict controls
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Old August 17th, 2014, 02:40 AM   #11075
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so you complain because there are no strict controls
Of course. It's absolutely irresponsible of BiH not to even do a 'minimum check' on entry - they seem to be relying on Croatia to do it, which isn't exactly the kind of cooperation expected from a country with EU aspirations.

I've said it elsewhere, but Bosnia really has a lousy attitude at times towards border control in general. Some facilities are great - Licko Petrovo Selo (sorry, don't know the Bosnian name) and Nova Sela for instance. But a single lane on entry at Brcko, Brod, Gradiska and Ivanica is absolutely ridiculous when you consider the amount of traffic that goes through there.
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Old August 17th, 2014, 06:41 AM   #11076
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Of course. It's absolutely irresponsible of BiH not to even do a 'minimum check' on entry - they seem to be relying on Croatia to do it, which isn't exactly the kind of cooperation expected from a country with EU aspirations.

I've said it elsewhere, but Bosnia really has a lousy attitude at times towards border control in general. Some facilities are great - Licko Petrovo Selo (sorry, don't know the Bosnian name) and Nova Sela for instance. But a single lane on entry at Brcko, Brod, Gradiska and Ivanica is absolutely ridiculous when you consider the amount of traffic that goes through there.
Comme on Are you serious?! We dont need and dont want controls, we dont want ghettos. We hate it. If you want and like it just go to North Korea or wherever. That is Bosnian attitude.
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Old August 17th, 2014, 04:50 PM   #11077
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There was a very long traffic jam from Zabok to the slovenian - croatian border yesterday at 21:30 h
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Old August 17th, 2014, 04:58 PM   #11078
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Zernez (CH) -> Livigno (I)
August 2014, shot from bus

1. Border is some 200 mts ahead


2. Swiss border post to the right, main road 28 to the left. This border post is still about 4 kms into Swiss territory.


3. The crossing's name is La Drossa


4. Single-lane tunnel under Munt La Schera, some 3 kms long, entirely in/under
Swiss territory. The traffic light actually shows red, not yellow ...


5. Looks like at least 100 yrs old ...


6. After the tunnel, still Switzerland! You first ride atop of a dam along the shore of Lago di Livigno. Ahead, the toll booth for the tunnel.


7. Only after the dam do we actually enter Italy!


8. Italian customs booth
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Old August 17th, 2014, 08:43 PM   #11079
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Huge queues on exit from Serbia to Croatia and Hungary at Batrovci and Horgos - 4-5 hours. And the worst part is that the alternative crossings have been discovered by Turkish gastarbeiters so there is a 3 hour wait at Backi Vinogradi for an example. In comments section people report waiting 8-9 hours yesterday.

http://www.blic.rs/Vesti/Drustvo/488...-i-po-pet-sati
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Old August 17th, 2014, 08:59 PM   #11080
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What do Serbian gastarbeiters do? Fly over?
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