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Old August 18th, 2014, 04:32 PM   #11101
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No it's not. Here in Mayrhofen there are loads of British, German and Dutch people who have a 2nd home here all year round. They are registered here as "nebenwohnsitz". And in Britain you don't have to register at all.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 04:33 PM   #11102
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No it is illegal, you can't permanently reside in two places and temporary residence is usually limited to 1 year. The whole idea of residence would be pointless if that was possible not to mention it doesn't make sense as you can't physically be at two places at the same time.
Do I have to post you articel from the law in order for you to accept the fact. Here is from Austrian governement site. You can Google it further if you don't belive it.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 04:40 PM   #11103
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No it's not. Here in Mayrhofen there are loads of British, German and Dutch people who have a 2nd home here all year round. They are registered here as "nebenwohnsitz". And in Britain you don't have to register at all.
That is Britain, a very specific case. Not cancelling the residence in Serbia upon moving out to another country brings a fine of 100-500 EUR.http://www.paragraf.rs/propisi/zakon..._gradjana.html
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Old August 18th, 2014, 04:44 PM   #11104
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we are not talking about Serbia, we are talking about Austria, Germany and BiH
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Old August 18th, 2014, 04:52 PM   #11105
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Bosnia adopted is in the process of adopting the same law as Serbia - http://www.prvimart.ba/vijesti/novi-...-svojoj-zemlji And the only reason why it had a different law were the refugees. From now on foreign residents will be treated as - tourists, and their double residency will be cancelled.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 05:04 PM   #11106
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That law has not been adopted.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 06:11 PM   #11107
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Btw before someone complained how Bosnia-Croatia border crossings are just for Croatian or Bosnian citizens. I think this is the case just because no one contested it yet but it would only take one complaint to the European Commission to make them at least open for other EU citizens. I am saying this because all those smaller crossings with Hungary that used to be just for Serbian and Hungarian citizens had to be transformed and are now for Serbian, Hungarian and EU citizens. Obviously Serbia didn't have to accept it probably but then those crossings would have had to be closed as they wouldn't be actually open for EU citizens.
there was the same situation between Slovenia and Croatia - plenty of local crossings.
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Is Croatia still aiming for Schengen membership in 2015?
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Old August 18th, 2014, 07:05 PM   #11109
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Is Croatia still aiming for Schengen membership in 2015?
rather the beginning of 2016. plan is to apply for membership exactly 2 years after joining the EU (01.07.2015.) and hoping that in 6 moinths membership would be approved.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 07:26 PM   #11110
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what are the chances to achieve that goal?
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Old August 18th, 2014, 07:56 PM   #11111
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what are the chances to achieve that goal?
i don't know. people here are not bothering with that too much. i personally think that it would be surprise to achieve it in such short period nowadays.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 11:22 PM   #11112
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i don't know. people here are not bothering with that too much. i personally think that it would be surprise to achieve it in such short period nowadays.
I think it's highly unlikely to be honest. Romania and Bulgaria are still no closer to joining, and it would be a political no-no to let Croatia in while keeping those two out.

The big question for me is whether Croatia is adequately guarding the external Schengen frontier while having well equipped border crossings. Some of them are excellent, but can Schengen really tolerate the situation in Metkovic with the petrol station just within Bosnian territory but only accessible from Croatia?

With those local border crossings, they're just a stupid nuisance. I understand limiting them to EU+Bosnia, but we're supposed to have a union here - and those local-only border crossings more or less restrict my rights to freedom of movement.

Allowing locals to cross the border at any point - good idea. Restricting physical border crossings with guards to locals? Stupid. Can anyone think of one justification to have them only open to locals?
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I think it's highly unlikely to be honest. Romania and Bulgaria are still no closer to joining, and it would be a political no-no to let Croatia in while keeping those two out.
speaking about political no-noes - Romania and Bulgaria entered EU before Croatia. isn't that enough?
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Old August 18th, 2014, 11:29 PM   #11114
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With those local border crossings, they're just a stupid nuisance. I understand limiting them to EU+Bosnia, but we're supposed to have a union here - and those local-only border crossings more or less restrict my rights to freedom of movement.
very selfish of you, while demanding more freedom of movement for you at the same time you complain how Bosnians are not controlling strict enough.
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speaking about political no-noes - Romania and Bulgaria entered EU before Croatia. isn't that enough?
Not at all, since those two countries are infinitely more important geopolitically than Croatia.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 11:35 PM   #11116
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Oh for crying out loud it's Laurel and Hardy again. Eulanthe you go this way. BL2 you go the other way. And stop hogging this thread.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 11:39 PM   #11117
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Judging by the sweet lemon tone and knowing it from some other situations I sense it's already known that Croatia won't make it in 2016 for some other reasons other than the stalling of Bulgaria and Romania. But yes I can't see Croatia joining before the two even if there were no other issues and that is unfair IMO. Actually stalling Bulgaria and Romania might even be illegal. If those countries didn't want them in the EU they shouldn't have ratified the accession treaty. Now it's just pathetic behavior, they are in the EU and that's it, not allowing them into Schengen might bring populist politicians a few votes but it won't make a difference.
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Some of them are excellent, but can Schengen really tolerate the situation in Metkovic with the petrol station just within Bosnian territory but only accessible from Croatia?
Allowing locals to cross the border at any point - good idea.
You don't make much sense here. Some silly petrol station situation is a grand security risk for the EU but allowing locals to cross outside designated crossings is not? What would stop anyone from crossing anywhere if there is no control?
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Oh for crying out loud it's Laurel and Hardy again. Eulanthe you go this way. BL2 you go the other way. And stop hogging this thread.
Whats your problem, stop telling people what to write.
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Old August 18th, 2014, 11:55 PM   #11120
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You're preaching to the choir dude. But I got 2 infractions because of this kind of shit, and a hell of a lot of posts gets deleted here when deemed off topic. Posts a lot of people have contributed to. You don't know this section very well, but I want to see more border crossings now, and I am wondering if the policy here is going to change only because a mod out of town is getting actively involved. I'd be very disappointed but not surprised.
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