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Old September 10th, 2014, 12:34 AM   #11321
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Canaries have a larger population than Alaska and Hawaii. I guess if they became independent they wouldn't be allowed back into Eu since they are in Africa
Since French Guiana is French it is in the EU. If it was independent then it couldn't into EU because it's in South America. And I used to think it was independent!

PS OT: I like to put Canaries in any time zone but the one they actually are on (One hour behind mainland Spain).
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Old September 10th, 2014, 12:41 AM   #11322
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Dominican Republic with Haiti for example. And Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland. And maybe next year UK with Scotland. And France/Netherlands on St Martin.
and Tierra del Fuego (Chile-Argentina)
https://www.google.es/maps/@-54.4406.../data=!3m1!1e3

Cyprus,

a little island Finland-Sweeden with no population


and so on...



but... is Indonesia-Malaysia-Brunei the only island in the world with three countries?
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Old September 10th, 2014, 12:45 AM   #11323
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Geographic location is not the main criterion to definy sovereignity. For example the Canaries, Azores, Madeira, Faer Oer, Svalbard are quite far away from their mainlands but they are still part of their countries and have cultural bounds with them. The cultural\linguistic\ethnic identity is a more relevant criterion.
Faroe Islands (and Greenland) are not as such part of Denmark. They are part of The Kingdom of Denmark. Both have strong local parliaments that take care of their domestic issues. There are elected representatives from both in the Danish parliament but the general rule is that they don't use their votes on domestic Danish issues.

Both have their own flags, languages and cultures and would like independence but it's not economically viable because there are only about 50.000 people in each place.

Oh and by the way: What a stupid Italian law. Everybody in Europe and around The Mediterranean can claim Italian ancestry if only they go back far enough
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Old September 10th, 2014, 12:50 AM   #11324
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I order these pics



This is N-330 in the "summus portus" (Hence "Somport", in Latin "main Mountain Pass") just exiting Spain in the Aragonese region, central Pyrenees. It is the lowest pass and part of St.James Lane since middle age era.


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the former road border
somportajava_20080620_070857 by laerteocj, on Flickr


We turn back and see many signals. I will explain later... just a Candanchu ski resort by pass



Col du Somport by Martin M. Miles, on Flickr[/QUOTE]


Spain signal is almost in the border but region name is quite later to avoid many signals at the same time



Aragón Somport by blogsergio, on Flickr
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Old September 10th, 2014, 12:53 AM   #11325
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Old September 10th, 2014, 12:58 AM   #11326
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Col du Somport by centenair2010, on Flickr
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Vista de las montañas by Alberto Lizaga, on Flickr

Absolutely the best image at all


You will see four roads. Main (three lanes) coming from the right is the N-330 in Spain. The RN-134 in France barely appears in this picture. It comes from the left.

The road coming from the upper side of the picture is a branch to Astun ski-resort (2 km long) and the other one going to the downer side is the former N-330 that cross Candanchu ski resort centre (1 km away).

Candanchu road crossing with N-330 is almost in the whole border. That building in the cross is in Spain, the building in the left is in France and the former booths appears in the picture (a white spot)

The valley ahead in the centre is in Spain and border is in the mountains in the centre-left
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Old September 10th, 2014, 10:50 AM   #11327
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Old September 10th, 2014, 11:38 AM   #11328
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YOU are like a teacher..jejejej



I've passed several nice times in that area. Not easy to forget.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 01:04 PM   #11329
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Old September 10th, 2014, 01:42 PM   #11330
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Anyway, I think Spain should try to make very strong laces with Puerto Rico, like giving nationality to the ones who wants them or increasing the business in this island
Hell no. Passports aren't credit cards.

For the past years Spanish passports have been given out like candy. Many people who had a Spanish grand-grandfather have requested it just because it's convenient, even though they don't feel Spanish at all.

I hope someday those meaningless passports are revoked... maybe when Spain finally breaks apart
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Old September 10th, 2014, 04:09 PM   #11331
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Hell no. Passports aren't credit cards.

For the past years Spanish passports have been given out like candy. Many people who had a Spanish grand-grandfather have requested it just because it's convenient, even though they don't feel Spanish at all.

I hope someday those meaningless passports are revoked... maybe when Spain finally breaks apart
It's right, a nationality is something related to the individual's identity. It shouldn't be a consumer good that is sold and purchased on the market.
Changing nationality is OK, because someone may reside for long and assimilate in a country different that his\her birthplace. However, owning a citizenship should require some bounds with that country, like residing there for a certain time, speaking the local language, have a job, family and home.
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Old September 10th, 2014, 08:53 PM   #11332
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col d'ares , spanish-french border
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Col d'Ares, vue côté espagnol by olive.titus, on Flickr
Coll d' Ares nevado en Febrero de 2010 by VisitPirineos.com, on Flickr
Relaxed at the Pyrenean border between France and Spain in Catalonia by JRJ., on Flickr
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Col d'Ares, 1513 mètres, Pyrénées-Orientales, limite entre la France et l'Espagne by olive.titus, on Flickr
Coll d'Ares by c_a_r_l_o_s, on Flickr
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Old September 10th, 2014, 08:59 PM   #11333
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Another Spanish-French border. This time in Navarra.

This non-paved path is France, road remains for certain kilometres in Spain

https://www.google.es/maps/@42.95147...pG6_qbkWdQ!2e0


just look that road will remain within Spain and I wonder where they made passport controls before Schengen because it is very easy to cross the border there.


Another tip: approaching the border we find a "loop"

https://www.google.es/maps/@42.96331...X475fv9NaQ!2e0
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Old September 10th, 2014, 09:37 PM   #11334
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but... is Indonesia-Malaysia-Brunei the only island in the world with three countries?
The tripoint FIN-NO-SE is also an island, photo of the first bordermarker in 1897 when it was Russia instead of Finland:
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Here is a crossingpoint for FIN-NO in Pasvik - maybe the only border-fence between two Schengen countries (for livestock purposes):

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Old September 11th, 2014, 12:49 AM   #11335
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There are also people in Puerto Rico who want to return belonging to Spain

I heard about this movement long time ago, and these past weeks Puerto Rico national basketball team played in my city, so I could ask to some of the Puerto Rico fans who came here.
They told me that, in fact, nearly everyone would like that because of historical, language and cultural reasons, but due to difficulties that the USA will create and because of economical and geographical reasons a lot of people accept that this probably will never happen.

Anyway, I think Spain should try to make very strong laces with Puerto Rico, like giving nationality to the ones who wants them or increasing the business in this island
BS, the "movement" that want's to reunite with Spain arelike 500 facebook users or less.
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Old September 11th, 2014, 12:50 AM   #11336
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Puerto Rico is a bit more complicated, though. Independence parties are quite strong, while Hawaii and Alaska basically have none of them.
40,000 voters "quite strong"?
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I wonder why Hawaii, Alaska, and Puerto Rico aren't independent though.
Why would Puerto Rico want independence? There are over 1,500 puerto ricans moving to one of the 50 states every 10 days, currently there's over a million more puerto ricans living in the mainland than in the island.
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Old September 11th, 2014, 01:35 AM   #11338
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About Llivia enclave (https://www.google.es/maps/place/175...f4e91c4ba55324) I have found this news in El Pais - English edition, the readest Spanish newspaper.

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Llivia rises up before the visitor with a certain cinematic suspense. One heads through a tunnel (there are plenty of them there), and then suddenly, as you emerge into the light, you’re in another place. Each exit from each tunnel brings you into a magical landscape. Behind is the C-16 road down to Barcelona, which is about two hours away. The mountains engulf the visitor, their size and greenness dizzying. At this point the landscape settles into meadowland, dotted with farms and stone wooden-beamed houses. It takes a while to make the 1,300-meters-above-sea-level journey, but it is worth the effort.


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http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/09/04/...52_821710.html
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Old September 11th, 2014, 01:55 AM   #11339
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BS, the "movement" that want's to reunite with Spain arelike 500 facebook users or less.
There were Facebook pages even to annex Lombardy to Switzerland or to give Alaska back to Russia (the latter happened shortly after the Crimean referendum).
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Old September 11th, 2014, 01:57 AM   #11340
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It doesn't stop there. According to yesterday's London Evening Standard 1 in 5 Londoners want London to be independent from the UK.
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