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Old September 16th, 2014, 11:10 PM   #11361
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The main border crossing I - RSM at Dogana was already posted here by Romanian forumers, so I took some pics of smaller crossings.

Here, coming from Coriano (I) east of RSM, entering into Castello di Faetano:

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4. Looking back: only a standard EU Italia sign in the distance. Speed limits information is not posted (not really necessary, as you will have entered Italy from another country before entering RSM, unless your vehicle was brought there by helicopter )

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Old September 16th, 2014, 11:15 PM   #11362
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Old September 17th, 2014, 10:58 AM   #11363
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4. Looking back: only a standard EU Italia sign in the distance. Speed limits information is not posted (not really necessary, as you will have entered Italy from another country before entering RSM, unless your vehicle was brought there by helicopter
Well, you might have been born in San Marino, and exit it for the very first time
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Old September 17th, 2014, 11:00 AM   #11364
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Is it even necessary to build such borders? Just curious regarding Schengen ambitions. We had built several border crossings near Bratislava in second half of 90s that have remained unmanned since 2007. Now they are neglected and looking like ugly memorial for wrong spent money.
It would be better to have one joined border crossing, rather than two of them. But no body bothers
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Old September 17th, 2014, 12:09 PM   #11365
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It would be better to have one joined border crossing, rather than two of them. But no body bothers
Back then, probably nobody would have expected Slovakia to join Schengen. Yet, they were used for 10 years, so they weren't completely useless.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 12:15 PM   #11366
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There was one (Skalité/Zwardoń) opened in 2006, so it functioned for only 1 year
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Old September 17th, 2014, 12:27 PM   #11367
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There was one (Skalité/Zwardoń) opened in 2006, so it functioned for only 1 year
That's madness! If I recall well, the A5\M70 motorway between Slovenia and Hungary was opened few days after those countries joined Schengen, thus avoiding the need to build a border station.
They should wait to open new motorways between SLO-HR, H-RO, RO-BG and BG-GR.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 12:51 PM   #11368
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What's even worse, that crossing was designed for heavy traffic, as it was supposed to be one of the main crossings between PL and SK and part of E75 route.
Now, 8 years later, traffic volume there is still less than 1000 vehicles per day (and no trucks) because motorways on both sides of the border are not completed

I already posted this crossing in this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post107912759
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Old September 17th, 2014, 02:02 PM   #11369
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What's even worse, that crossing was designed for heavy traffic, as it was supposed to be one of the main crossings between PL and SK and part of E75 route.
Now, 8 years later, traffic volume there is still less than 1000 vehicles per day (and no trucks) because motorways on both sides of the border are not completed

I already posted this crossing in this thread: http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post107912759
Slovakia started it in 1997 in 1999, the project was cancelled and restored in 2006.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 07:39 PM   #11370
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It would be better to have one joined border crossing, rather than two of them. But no body bothers
I already brought that up before, and I'm really not sure why Bosnia and Croatia are building separate crossings when the success of Licko Petrovo Selo is known.

The only logic I can think of is that a border crossing to EU standards with full inspection facilities would take up a considerable amount of space, and Schengen law allegedly requires new control facilities to be on EU territory. But then again, given that many of the "one stop" controls haven't been implemented on the Croatian/Slovenian border, is it much of a surprise?

With the Zwardon crossing, my understanding of the matter is that the speed of Schengen entry took everyone by surprise.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 08:04 PM   #11371
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Old September 17th, 2014, 08:11 PM   #11372
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In reality, the worst case scenario is that we'll see Customs controls on the Scottish-rUK border. The Swiss and Norwegian examples show us that those controls won't interfere with normal cross-border life.
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Old September 17th, 2014, 08:45 PM   #11374
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In reality, the worst case scenario is that we'll see Customs controls on the Scottish-rUK border. The Swiss and Norwegian examples show us that those controls won't interfere with normal cross-border life.
It won't if Scotland remains in the EU. However, it will interfere if it doesn't and all freight crossing that border will be subjected to customs clearance. Same when moving goods between Norway/Switzerland and the rest of the EU.
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Old September 18th, 2014, 12:20 PM   #11375
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I suppose this was an idea of the unionist to frighten the "Yes" supporters...

In case Scotland becomes an independent country I think more likely an open border like the Ireland - Nord Ireland one.
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Old September 18th, 2014, 12:34 PM   #11376
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would Scottland join schengen?
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Old September 18th, 2014, 12:41 PM   #11377
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France (Handaye) - Spain (Irun) Border

France side
[IMG]http://i60.************/20rnxfp.jpg[/IMG]

Spanish side
[IMG]http://i58.************/qpoutw.jpg[/IMG]

The old bridge, now pedestrian, between France and Spain
France side
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Spanish side
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The new car bridge
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This ancient plate in the middle of the old bridge indicates the point of the border
France side
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Old September 18th, 2014, 05:22 PM   #11378
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What's even worse, that crossing was designed for heavy traffic, as it was supposed to be one of the main crossings between PL and SK and part of E75 route.
Now, 8 years later, traffic volume there is still less than 1000 vehicles per day (and no trucks) because motorways on both sides of the border are not completed
Well, from Bielsko-Biala to Zilina it's a better and faster and even vignette-free route through Czech Republic. We'll see how this changes if the motorway is some day completed.
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would Scottland join schengen?
Having no borders with any Schengen states, I see no point in doing so.

Also I see no point in not joining (or rather staying) in the British isles' Common Travel Area.
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Old September 18th, 2014, 05:45 PM   #11380
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Having no borders with any Schengen states, I see no point in doing so.
Yes it does through airports and ferry terminals....
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