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Old September 27th, 2014, 07:58 PM   #11441
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P.S. Oh and it was a 4-day sailing (5 at worst), back in those glorious days.
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Old September 27th, 2014, 08:03 PM   #11442
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I always use Silja Line between Stockholm and Helsinki. That's where I met my wife...
Which, given more recent developments, would seem like a disincentive.
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Old September 27th, 2014, 08:08 PM   #11443
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i have will never understand how people are afraid of flying, but not of sailing.
for me a 7-days transatlantic sailing trip would be real adrenaline adventure. not too comfortable though.
If your boat sinks, you have a fighting chance of surviving.

And it would be more relaxed, if you have the time. No jet lag because you're changing about one time zone a day. And it would be fun to be able to take my car with me.

My boss, a couple of years ago, took what's called a "repositioning cruise." When a cruise ship spends the winter doing the Caribbean and the summer doing the Mediterranean, they need to move it across the Atlantic - "reposition" it - at some point, so it takes passengers, for what she told me was a very good price (she likes cruises). Sailed from New Jersey to Lisbon and then turned into a Mediterranean cruise, making a bunch more stops and ending up in Italy somewhere. She flew home. But these are probably only available in spring and fall.
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Old September 28th, 2014, 01:27 AM   #11444
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Google street view is now on Argentina too

Is this (100m ahead) the southest crossing border?

https://www.google.es/maps/@-54.0044...2kAvwTsSCw!2e0
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Old September 29th, 2014, 03:53 PM   #11445
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Stockholm-Turku is more used than Stockholm-Helsinki, when speaking about actual transport.
The official statistics show figures which are not that straightforward.

The total number of international passengers at the ports on Finland in 2013 was about 18 million: 9 million departures and 9 million arrivals.

The "market share" of Sweden was 49% in this context and 43% for Estonia. All passenger traffic to Estonia goes via Helsinki, while there are four main routes between Finland and Sweden. The statistics show the passenger shares of the ports in SW Finland:

- Turku 16%
- Mariehamn 14%
- Eckerö 5%

Virtually all passenger traffic at these ports are bound for Sweden. The remaining 14% of the Finland-Sweden traffic goes via Helsinki. (The number of passengers on the Vaasa-Umeå route is negligible.)

Thus, in rough figures

Helsinki-Tallinn 7.7 million
Helsinki-Stockholm 2.5 million
Turku-Stockholm 2,9 million
Mariehamn-Stockholm 2.5 million
Eckerö-Grisslehamn 0.9 million

Meanwhile, the statistics distributed by the Port of Helsingborg tells us that the number of passengers was 7.7 million in 2013 on the HH-route. Thus, about equal to the Helsinki-Tallinn route.

Then it is time to speculate. Is cruising to be called 'traffic'? A big fraction of the people on the Helsinki-Tallinn and Turku-Stockholm routes are travelling to nowhere but spending their time aboard. Each of these person is counted as two: one departure and one arrival. The Mariehamn-Stockholm route is about 100% cruising.

On the Tallinn route, there even is a special service: Take your car with you for the day cruise, make your booze order at the shop, and the staff carries the booze to your car during the return trip. This is counted as two vehicles, one departing and one arriving, even if the car does not leave the ferry in Tallinn.

And: It is possible to reserve a table for a dinner on the Helsingborg-Helsingør route, and cross the strait as many times as needed. If someone has a dinner and spends say five return trips in the restaurant, is this single person counted as one, two, five or ten passengers?
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Old September 29th, 2014, 10:16 PM   #11446
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Spanish and Portoguese police together at a border crossing.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old September 29th, 2014, 10:18 PM   #11447
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old September 29th, 2014, 10:43 PM   #11448
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lol Nissan Leaf in Portugal's police fleet
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Old September 29th, 2014, 10:52 PM   #11449
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Nissan car is not Portuguese, is Spanish...


I've read that they do not work on border crossing (there is only two little villages to make something like that) but in main cities not far from the border. I think that city is Faro but not sure
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Old September 29th, 2014, 10:57 PM   #11450
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Nissan car is not Portuguese, is Spanish...
huh? but it has P plates and P livery
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Old September 29th, 2014, 11:02 PM   #11451
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Nissan car is not Portuguese, is Spanish...
Come on, Citroen C4 has spanish plates and Nissan has portugueses. But maybe U are talking about country of orgin, if yes I only know that Citroen C4 Picasso is made in Spain, don`t know if Nissan Leaf as well.
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Nissan Leaf is made in my home city, Sunderland.
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Old September 29th, 2014, 11:20 PM   #11453
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Spanish and Portoguese police together at a border crossing.
This photo, most likely, it isn`t at a border crossing but in a city (probably Lisbon)!!


There is an exchange program between the two (urban » P.S.P. & Policia Nacional) police forces/countrys that once a year 2 policemen and a vehicle goes to the neighboring country to help the local forces!!

[urban police force: P.S.P.»Portugal & Policia Nacional»Spain]



The two police forces normally stationed at the borders is for Portugal the G.N.R. and for Spain the Guardia Civil!!



At Tui, spanish border town the G.N.R. and Guardia Civil share the same instalations at the border!!


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lol Nissan Leaf in Portugal's police fleet
Nissan »» the recent ones »»» that car on the photo above is electric »»» is for show

Skoda »» the ten years ones!!
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Old September 30th, 2014, 12:43 AM   #11454
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Come on, Citroen C4 has spanish plates and Nissan has portugueses. But maybe U are talking about country of orgin, if yes I only know that Citroen C4 Picasso is made in Spain, don`t know if Nissan Leaf as well.
The way I could tell which was which was by which I was accented.
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Yes, I was thinking 'now I know how to spell "police" in Spanish'.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 02:02 PM   #11456
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Nissan »» the recent ones »»» that car on the photo above is electric »»» is for show Skoda »» the ten years ones!!
You see leafs in Lisbon quite often, but skodas and renaults are indeed the most common police cars.
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Old September 30th, 2014, 04:32 PM   #11457
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All passenger traffic to Estonia goes via Helsinki
Not all, there is also Mariehamn.

Obviously, this is just a little stop on the Stockholm-Tallinn service for taxation-related purposes, and the share of passengers actually boarding or landing in Mariehamn marginal; nevertheless, this affects Mariehamn's position on the list.
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Not all, there is also Mariehamn.

Obviously, this is just a little stop on the Stockholm-Tallinn service for taxation-related purposes, and the share of passengers actually boarding or landing in Mariehamn marginal; nevertheless, this affects Mariehamn's position on the list.
The thru-passengers Stockholm-Tallinn are not included in the figures, even if the ferry calls at Mariehamn. The number of passengers on the Mariehamn-Tallinn route is negligible: less than one per cent of the total.
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Unnamed road near Val Caldara (I) -> Strada del Lavoro, industrial zone, Acquaviva (RSM)

Photos taken Sep. 2014

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3. Looking at the side onto Torrente di San Marino, which runs approx. (but not exactly) along the border line for some 5 kms between Gualdicciolo and the north-western edge of Castello di Chiesanuova sub-division.




4. We're there.


In the opposite direction, there is no sign whatsoever for entering Italy; motto: "they will notice it early enough"
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 06:25 PM   #11460
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Do you realize that Portugal, in absolute terms, is poorer than Slovenia or Czech Republic?
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