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Old October 2nd, 2014, 07:39 PM   #11461
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Do you realize that Portugal, in absolute terms, is poorer than Slovenia or Czech Republic?
Well in Serbia police cars are Peugeot 307 and in Slovenia i think that police cars are Opel Astra G so obviously police cars are more expensive in Serbia which is much poorer then Slovenia...
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 08:19 PM   #11462
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Well in Serbia police cars are Peugeot 307 and in Slovenia i think that police cars are Opel Astra G so obviously police cars are more expensive in Serbia which is much poorer then Slovenia...
There are plenty of different police cars in Slovenia, nowadays most are Škoda Octavia Mk1 and 2, Renault Megane III, Ford Focus, VW Touareg, etc.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 08:52 PM   #11463
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 09:02 PM   #11464
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Inspector Lewis (on the British TV series of that name) drives a nice, shiny, full-size BMW when he's on duty. If I were a British taxpayer, I'd have questions to ask about that.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 09:40 PM   #11465
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Inspector Lewis (on the British TV series of that name) drives a nice, shiny, full-size BMW when he's on duty. If I were a British taxpayer, I'd have questions to ask about that.
The majority of high performance police cars in England are donated by the manufacturers. Your bog standard 'pandas' are sold to the police forces at about 25% of normal prices.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 09:46 PM   #11466
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Well, that's all right then.
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Old October 2nd, 2014, 11:34 PM   #11467
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Do you realize that Portugal, in absolute terms, is poorer than Slovenia or Czech Republic?
What are those absolute terms? GDP per capita in PPP? GDP per capita is not the same as wealth (both countries are still behind in wealth per capita, particularly the Czech Republic at only half). If you're looking for the actual (or absolute if you will) wealth produced in a country in a year that would be real GDP.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 01:45 PM   #11468
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Inspector Lewis (on the British TV series of that name) drives a nice, shiny, full-size BMW when he's on duty. If I were a British taxpayer, I'd have questions to ask about that.
German police cars are mainly BMW's...
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 02:45 PM   #11469
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Well, if they're donated.... That hadn't occurred to me.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 02:55 PM   #11470
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Courtesy of German taxpayers...
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 02:59 PM   #11471
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Inspector Lewis (on the British TV series of that name) drives a nice, shiny, full-size BMW when he's on duty. If I were a British taxpayer, I'd have questions to ask about that.
So? International bids are called for police vehicles. Long gone are the times when all Italian police cars were Alfa Romeo...
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:02 PM   #11472
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Cute little Fiat Punto's with one blue light on the roof. Are they still about?
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:06 PM   #11473
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Recommend you the semi-documentary film: The Belgrade phantom. It took place in late '70s as a guy on white Porsche Targa let himself being chased by Yugoslav Police (on old zastavas).

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Belgrade, Yugoslavia, 1979. While Yugoslav president Tito is in Cuba settling international matters, a mysterious Phantom occupies the attention and hearts of Belgrade. Every night, he exhibits spectacular driving maneuvers using a stolen white Porsche car through the city streets. Through the radio the Phantom publicly challenges the police to try and catch him. More than 10.000 people are in the streets supporting their hero. The police are forced into a game where he sets the rules. The Phantom becomes a political threat. What started as a game turned into a political scandal and remained a myth that would never be forgot.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0810089/
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 03:39 PM   #11474
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Courtesy of German taxpayers...
How, um, un-austere of them.

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So? International bids are called for police vehicles. Long gone are the times when all Italian police cars were Alfa Romeo...
The price (again, not knowing they were donated) was the issue. As the context might have indicated.

("So?", indeed.)

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Cute little Fiat Punto's with one blue light on the roof. Are they still about?
Jeremy Clarkson could recommend particular models of Lamborghini or Ferrari.
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 04:04 PM   #11475
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Cute little Fiat Punto's with one blue light on the roof. Are they still about?
Grande Puntos yes. not sure for older models though. but they were always in Polizia livery, I don't remember them in Carabinieri livery.

on the other side, Carabineri were always separated in 2 groups: 1. sexy mid-size Alfa Romeos (155, 156, 159) 2. Fiats (in the sense of Carabinieri - crapy vehicles: Brava, Marea, new Bravo). probably a they deserved it
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Old October 3rd, 2014, 05:17 PM   #11476
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So? International bids are called for police vehicles. Long gone are the times when all Italian police cars were Alfa Romeo...
This is mandatory according to EU laws about free competition. The state, as public administration, can't choose his suppliers, but it has to do international bids, open at least to EU-based companies.
In Italy until the early 1990s free competition principes were quite ignored (with public administration having an absolute power and growing corruption), until EU started making pressure.
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Old October 4th, 2014, 11:37 AM   #11477
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What are those absolute terms? GDP per capita in PPP? GDP per capita is not the same as wealth (both countries are still behind in wealth per capita, particularly the Czech Republic at only half). If you're looking for the actual (or absolute if you will) wealth produced in a country in a year that would be real GDP.
GDP per capita is the main economic measure, after a few months living in Lisbon I really couldn't find that "wealth"...
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Old October 5th, 2014, 05:17 PM   #11478
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What are those absolute terms? GDP per capita in PPP? GDP per capita is not the same as wealth (both countries are still behind in wealth per capita, particularly the Czech Republic at only half). If you're looking for the actual (or absolute if you will) wealth produced in a country in a year that would be real GDP.
No, I'm not looking for anything that would dilute the main fact that Portugal is a poor country, hence it does not (fortunately) buy expensive police cars.

Mind you, this is a shameless show-off:
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Old October 5th, 2014, 08:54 PM   #11479
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Having BMW 5 series for police cars is a waste. Nissan Leafs were purchased as urban patrol cars for being eco friendly.

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GDP per capita is the main economic measure, after a few months living in Lisbon I really couldn't find that "wealth"...
Economic measure of what exactly? We were discussing wealth and as such it isn't the main and best indicator of the population's actual wealth and income.

Perhaps after a few months you still don't know Lisbon very well (not saying by any means that Lisbon with on par with cities such as London)
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Old October 5th, 2014, 09:28 PM   #11480
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Sorry for the OT, but "expensive" police cars are not always a "waste of money" -the lease deal may have more advantageous conditions, the final price being actually lower than for cheaper cars. It's happened more than once in Spain: the police buying low-end cars despite a BMW/Mercedes offer being cheaper, just for image issues.
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