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Old November 1st, 2014, 04:02 PM   #11561
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Is it a joint control, or two separate border stations?
I've never seen a join control with Serbia. Does such border crossings exist with Serbia?

The only joint controls I've seen are between EU-countries.

EDIT: One exception, the only non-EU joint control I've seen is Sukobin/Muriqan (MNE/AL).
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Old November 1st, 2014, 07:57 PM   #11562
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I've never seen a join control with Serbia. Does such border crossings exist with Serbia?
There's Bački Vinogradi(SRB)- Ásotthalom(H):



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Old November 1st, 2014, 09:58 PM   #11563
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I've never seen a join control with Serbia. Does such border crossings exist with Serbia?

The only joint controls I've seen are between EU-countries.

EDIT: One exception, the only non-EU joint control I've seen is Sukobin/Muriqan (MNE/AL).
There are some, for instance, Licko Petrovo Selo (HR/BiH) is a joint control, and of course Neum-Klek/Zaton Doli are also joint. There's also another one near Neum (I don't remember the name right now...) that is also joined. I've got a feeling that the Serbian and Kosovan Customs officers were supposed to work together, too. Then if you go north, there's two joint Polish-Ukrainian crossings too, such as at Kroscienko. It's worth pointing out however that most of these controls aren't joined in the way that the PL/DE border was between 2004-2007, but rather two countries conducting controls under one big roof.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 10:00 PM   #11564
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I could also understand Italy if they introduced an Australian-style coast protection (be it with or without EU approval).
It won't happen. We'll keep giving free money, cigarettes, phone top-ups and apartments to them.
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Old November 1st, 2014, 11:29 PM   #11565
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While we're on the subject of EU border security, is there any news about Cyprus joining Schengen? Romania and Bulgaria is an old story, but Cyprus seems to have been forgotten about.
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Old November 8th, 2014, 09:27 PM   #11566
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Border crossing Nakovo(SRB)-Lunga(RO) was opened today. Two more crossings between Serbia and Romania will be opened in November.

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Old November 8th, 2014, 10:42 PM   #11567
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There are two signs for cars on Romanian booths. One of them is for all passports, but I cannot read the full text of the other one. What does it say?
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Old November 8th, 2014, 10:56 PM   #11568
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There are two signs for cars on Romanian booths. One of them is for all passports, but I cannot read the full text of the other one. What does it say?
CD, EU, EEA, CH. Like at any other EU border crossing.
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Old November 9th, 2014, 12:39 PM   #11569
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so these new crossings can be used with any passport? Not like i.e. Bački Vinogradi where only EU and serbian citizens can pass?
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Old November 9th, 2014, 01:13 PM   #11570
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so these new crossings can be used with any passport? Not like i.e. Bački Vinogradi where only EU and serbian citizens can pass?
Could be misleading and mean "EU/EEA/CH/SRB" only, it doesn't look equipped to handle all international traffic. All passports in this case means "all citizens permitted to pass through". Interesting that CD is marked though, it's been a dying trend on new border crossings. Those Romanian signs are strange for another reason, as they don't meet the Schengen border crossings standards. More to the point, why are we still opening up double controls when the trend has been for joint controls, especially on smaller border crossings? Oh, and why is it that PL can't open such simple small crossings and instead has to build massive overbuilt structures for essentially local traffic?
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Old November 9th, 2014, 01:25 PM   #11571
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"All passports" means Serbian passports, and if there is a long queue at EU/EEA/CH gate, they can also use this one.
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Old November 9th, 2014, 10:33 PM   #11572
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This one might interest some people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uGPO85ejGo

Dashcam of 3 or 4 border crossings between the Republic of Ireland and Northern Ireland in a five minute video. The border does odd things along parts of it, bits of one road are in different countries.

The vid is taken roughly here.

https://www.google.ie/maps/@54.09693...1157,17z?hl=en
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Old November 10th, 2014, 10:56 AM   #11573
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CD, EU, EEA, CH. Like at any other EU border crossing.
What's CD?
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Could be misleading and mean "EU/EEA/CH/SRB" only, it doesn't look equipped to handle all international traffic. All passports in this case means "all citizens permitted to pass through". Interesting that CD is marked though, it's been a dying trend on new border crossings. Those Romanian signs are strange for another reason, as they don't meet the Schengen border crossings standards. More to the point, why are we still opening up double controls when the trend has been for joint controls, especially on smaller border crossings? Oh, and why is it that PL can't open such simple small crossings and instead has to build massive overbuilt structures for essentially local traffic?
Are there any joint controls between EU/non-EU countries in this region?
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Old November 10th, 2014, 11:43 AM   #11574
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What's CD?
Corps diplomatique in French or diplomatic corps in English.

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See post #11562.
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Old November 10th, 2014, 03:47 PM   #11575
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Could be misleading and mean "EU/EEA/CH/SRB" only, it doesn't look equipped to handle all international traffic.
Probably 99% of people crossing there will be locals so I am sure that it can handle a random Asian that will appear once a year.

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so these new crossings can be used with any passport? Not like i.e. Bački Vinogradi where only EU and serbian citizens can pass?
It's up to the agreement of the sides, but I think crossings with Romania including this one are open to all. The limitation for this one is that it works only 7-19 and is for cars only.
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Old November 10th, 2014, 04:32 PM   #11576
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Serbian time. 8-20 Romanian time
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Old November 10th, 2014, 07:43 PM   #11577
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Could have been so hard for the Romanian and Serbian land surveyors and officials to come up with the same level of tarmac on both sides of that road?
Anyway, thank you so much for the pics! Opening new border crossings to ease people's lives is always refreshing.

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Old November 10th, 2014, 07:46 PM   #11578
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Changing to another continent.... why don't Argentina and Uruguay share any international brigde?
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Old November 10th, 2014, 07:50 PM   #11579
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Speaking of changing continents, what do you guys think of an EU arrangement for ASEAN nations (aka South East Asia) in the near future (around 2030?)
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Old November 10th, 2014, 08:55 PM   #11580
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Changing to another continent.... why don't Argentina and Uruguay share any international brigde?
Yes, they do!! My pics taken in 2005 on the bridge between Fray Bentos (ROU) and Gualeguaychu (RA). I think there are two more bridge crossings.











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