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Old November 13th, 2014, 01:22 AM   #11601
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Have to think about that one....
I would say that the term 'frontier' is used more as an unquantifiable area in English but I don't think it would be wrong to say that the actual border is the 'frontier', just not very natural.
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Old November 13th, 2014, 01:41 AM   #11602
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Huh? "Carina" is the local language
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Old November 13th, 2014, 01:43 AM   #11603
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According to MW dictionary frontier is a border between two countries http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/frontier
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Old November 13th, 2014, 02:45 AM   #11604
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I agree, but at the same time, for me it seems weird to just see Grenze instead of Staatsgrenze, I don't know why...
Yes, "Grenze" is not only border, but, more generally, any type of limitation. So for a national border, it's a short, rather colloquial expression.

On German signs, one reads Bundesgrenze, and on Austrian signs, it's Staatsgrenze.
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Old November 13th, 2014, 03:35 AM   #11605
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According to MW dictionary frontier is a border between two countries http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/frontier
It can also mean other sorts of significant boundary. Examples: in American history, "the frontier" was used for the edge of European settlement at any given time, and people living in newly settled areas near that edge were said to be living "on the frontier"; then there's the voiceover at the beginning of Star Trek that starts "Space: the final frontier." I wouldn't talk of the frontier between two U.S. states or the administrative subdivisions of other countries...that's not significant enough.

EDIT: I just looked at the comments to the MW definition. Interesting that someone mentions "Doctors Without Borders," which is the English name for the organization that in French is called "Médecins sans frontičres".
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Old November 13th, 2014, 07:51 AM   #11606
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Old November 13th, 2014, 06:05 PM   #11607
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The border crossing that was closed for 10 years and that didn't even have asphalt on the Romanian side



reopened too



(seems quite a lot of Romanians in that area speak almost perfect Serbian)

They want to expand it in a year, year and a half to be open 24h and for trucks.
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Old November 13th, 2014, 06:11 PM   #11608
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They kept French and threw away their own language on the sign? LMAO!

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Old November 13th, 2014, 06:20 PM   #11609
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I don't like unnecessary slowing-down of traffic, but I actually like some border infrastructure. For example, going from the Slovenian A5 to the Hungarian M70 is smooth (110 km/h), but there's also a rest area on the Slovenian side.
is that the only MOL in SLovenia, or there are more of them?
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Old November 13th, 2014, 06:21 PM   #11610
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There're a few more (but not many).
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Old November 13th, 2014, 06:39 PM   #11611
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Those light poles on the Lithuanian side date back to USSR times from the looks of it.
Hmm, I remember reading somewhere that during Soviet period Lithuania had no direct road connecting it with Poland. Is it true? A 1940 Lithuanian road map shows one road which connects LT to PL, but it's possible that it was closed during Soviet occupation years.
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From 1945 to 1989 were only three road border crossing points with CCCP (any in the territory of the present Lithuania)
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Old November 13th, 2014, 09:26 PM   #11613
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(seems quite a lot of Romanians in that area speak almost perfect Serbian)
It's not unexpected, Serbian ethnic groups were part of historical Banat province. When Banat was partitioned, some categories remained on the other side
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Old November 13th, 2014, 09:45 PM   #11614
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is that the only MOL in SLovenia, or there are more of them?
What is a MOL?

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Hmm, I remember reading somewhere that during Soviet period Lithuania had no direct road connecting it with Poland. Is it true? A 1940 Lithuanian road map shows one road which connects LT to PL, but it's possible that it was closed during Soviet occupation years.
It was not a problem since one could travel from the People's Republic of Poland to the Lithuanian SSR either via the Belarusian SSR or the Russian SSR, without crossing any additional international border.
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Old November 13th, 2014, 09:57 PM   #11615
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What is a MOL?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MOL_Group
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Old November 13th, 2014, 10:02 PM   #11616
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What is a MOL?

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https://maps.google.hr/maps?ll=46.52...16.07,,1,-1.15
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Old November 13th, 2014, 10:04 PM   #11617
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It's not unexpected, Serbian ethnic groups were part of historical Banat province. When Banat was partitioned, some categories remained on the other side
Yes but names like Sorin Oglodescu (well that's how one of the people was signed, apparently such last name does not exist) are unmistakably Romanian. Also Ceausescu made sure to kick them all out Stalin style as far as Constanta and Transylvania. I think it has something to do with watching Serbian TV in the 1980s that was apparently very popular, and selling goods in Serbia in the 1990s but both activities never seemed like something that could make you speak almost perfectly
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Old November 13th, 2014, 10:27 PM   #11618
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Yes but names like Sorin Oglodescu (well that's how one of the people was signed, apparently such last name does not exist) are unmistakably Romanian. Also Ceausescu made sure to kick them all out Stalin style as far as Constanta and Transylvania. I think it has something to do with watching Serbian TV in the 1980s that was apparently very popular, and selling goods in Serbia in the 1990s but both activities never seemed like something that could make you speak almost perfectly
As this thread has permanently turned to about 95% off-topic, should we divide it into two: "Intra-Balkan international border crossings" and "Non-Balkan international border crossings"?
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Old November 13th, 2014, 10:45 PM   #11619
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You could do the same thing to the entirety of Highways & Autobahns, really....

With, perhaps, a Dutch subarea within "non-Balkan."
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What is a MOL?
99% of Slovenes would answer this (sorry for OT ).
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