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Old November 16th, 2014, 08:21 PM   #11641
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Border between The Netherlands (left) / Belgium (Right) at Kanne.

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Old November 16th, 2014, 08:49 PM   #11642
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This is not the border! The border is north of Kanne and is not a 'wet' border. This bridge is totally in Belgium, some kilometers from the NL-BE border.

The real border is here:
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Old November 16th, 2014, 09:06 PM   #11643
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It would have been cheaper for Belgium to just give to NL those 10 metres of land and save the money of the bridge
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Old November 16th, 2014, 09:07 PM   #11644
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I wonder if that's the only suspension bridge in Belgium.
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Old November 16th, 2014, 09:17 PM   #11645
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This is not the border! The border is north of Kanne and is not a 'wet' border. This bridge is totally in Belgium, some kilometers from the NL-BE border.

The real border is here:
Picture is made here. 10 feet to the left lies The Netherlands.

https://www.google.nl/maps/@50.8196739,5.6552555,16z
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Old November 16th, 2014, 09:22 PM   #11646
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That bit of Belgium between river and border might as well be a part of the Netherlands. The locals get the same local papers through the mail box, read the same classifieds, speak with the same accent and are virtually the same. The only difference?

It's still Belgium, so the roads suck.
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Old November 16th, 2014, 09:24 PM   #11647
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You're having quite a day! ;-)
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Old November 16th, 2014, 11:28 PM   #11648
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Would you like to go back to the situation in your country in the 90's? Talking about backward...
I had first hand experience so I can clearly now see how nationalism, racism, claustrophobia and chauvinism is now rising in Europe and it is supported by some here as well.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 01:16 AM   #11649
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All that is happening in your part of the world in a very violent way my friend. In this part we only discuss it, have a good old chin-wag about it, and when it is time to go to the polls we can establish that the common sense prevails again.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 01:40 AM   #11650
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It happened in "your" part of the world not so long time ago and it is happening all around the world thanks to "your" part of the world, so stop with that ignorant and childish condensing attitude. If you are representative of that common sense then there is nothing commonsensical in it.
The point is that chauvinists and nationalist are gaining more and more space in Europe (this forum proves that as well) and their/your retrograde policy is becoming main stream, what is to be expected in periods of financial crisis, but still that policy and all of it's followers belong to junkyard of history
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Old November 17th, 2014, 01:45 AM   #11651
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Anyone seen any nice borders lately?
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Old November 17th, 2014, 01:55 AM   #11652
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Anyone seen any nice borders lately?
Crossed one this morning. Following the river Inn from Austria into Germany, the Inn valley is mostly Austrian and the last 25 km are German until the Alps comes to a close and you can either head towards Salzburg or Munich. Lovely part of the world, but sadly riddled by racists, nationalists, chauvinists etc. According to BL2 anyway.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 02:02 AM   #11653
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for Europe with(out) borders.

Ultimate border

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Old November 17th, 2014, 02:06 AM   #11654
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Think I'll go back to watching the Eagles lose....

EDIT: 53-13?!?! I guess I won't.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 02:10 AM   #11655
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I think I'm going to sleep. Just got back from he pub. Nite....
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Old November 17th, 2014, 02:17 AM   #11656
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:10 AM   #11657
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I had first hand experience so I can clearly now see how nationalism, racism, claustrophobia and chauvinism is now rising in Europe and it is supported by some here as well.
Not really. Even in Poland, the nationalists won barely 1.5% in the local elections yesterday. As for border crossings, I want a Europe without borders too. But countries have to sort themselves out, and that includes securing the external border properly against illegal immigration. I don't see a future for Schengen if Europe continues to get richer and richer while Africa rots - and without an incredibly tough external border, Europe will become under sustained and repeated assault by these illegals.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 11:44 AM   #11658
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Poland is another story, I am talking about some other European countries Poland is sort of exception, because you understand how integration can play out well for country, while some fail to see it. I have first hand experience from Austria, the country which profited maybe the most from EU integration and Schengen and you can hear/read only about the bad sides of EU.
Waiting for countries to sort themselves out means it will never happen. According to majority from western Europe Poland wasn't ready neither for EU nor Schengen, however you were pushed in, if we have waited for Poland to "sort out" it would still be isolated post-communist country.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 12:54 PM   #11659
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What is the busiest cross of Europe?

Well, I supose that it is in EU, and perhaps between France and Germany or between Benelux and Germany I don't know.
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Old November 17th, 2014, 01:03 PM   #11660
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I'm not really sure. There are several. Some of them I find really busy are for example:

A16/E19 Breda-Antwerp
A12/A3 Arnhem-Oberhausen
A8/A1 Munich-Salzburg
A93/A12 Rosenheim-Innsbruck
A12/A22 Brenner
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