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Old December 24th, 2014, 04:46 PM   #11981
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Wouldn't Cyrillic be more usual?

And transliterating a person's name...I've never seen that from one Latin-alphabet language to another.
At that time, usage of Latin script in Serbian language was promoted by the official regime. Serbian language is phonetic, so we transliterate foreign names.
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Old December 24th, 2014, 05:26 PM   #11982
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And transliterating a person's name...I've never seen that from one Latin-alphabet language to another.
Then ask the Hungarians about that
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Old December 24th, 2014, 05:31 PM   #11983
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Old December 24th, 2014, 06:53 PM   #11984
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I must say your Hungarian spelling is perfect :-)
Writing this name so is absolutely wrong, though. In Hungary family names were never transliterated. What used to be very common (but is no more in use and sounds very archaistic) is change name order and use a Hungarian exonym of given names.
Note that in Hungary names are used in reversed order relative to most of Western languages: family name first, given name last. So e.g. the current prime minister's name is "Orbán Viktor", but writing in English/German/etc. the order is usually reversed and is written as "Viktor Orbán" in order to avoid misunderstandings.
Before World War II foreign names were usually written in reversed order in Hungary, family name first, given name last. Additionally, given names were used in a Hungarian version. E.g. your previous president's name would have been used as "ifj. Bush György" where György is the Hungarian equivalent of George, and ifj. means Jr.
So the late Romanian president would have been called as "Ceausescu Miklós" if he lived some 50 years earlier.
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Old December 24th, 2014, 07:08 PM   #11985
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Wouldn't Cyrillic be more usual?
Acctually it wouldn't especially in YU time.
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And transliterating a person's name...I've never seen that from one Latin-alphabet language to another.
Normally people do not brag about ignorance.
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Old December 24th, 2014, 07:57 PM   #11986
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Old December 24th, 2014, 08:11 PM   #11987
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A unique video of one of the most controversial border crossings in the world. A South Korean unification activist crossed the border into North Korea illegally to speak with authorities.

Now: On the North Korean side of the border at the DMZ there is a bit of a party going on, as this activist receives flowers and cheers from government officials and supporters. The South Korean security and police are watching on their side of the border, waiting for him to step across so he can be arrested for illegally entering North Korea. As soon as he crosses the border he gets arrested by South Korean officials, under loud protest of the North Koreans on their side of the border. Also the North Korean guards are unable to do anything but look as the activist is being taken away.

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Old December 24th, 2014, 10:10 PM   #11988
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Normally people do not brag about ignorance.
That was uncalled-for.
(And "ignorance" about what, frankly?)

Merry Christmas to you, too.

Reported.
And welcome to my "ignore" list. So to speak.
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Old December 24th, 2014, 10:46 PM   #11989
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A unique video of one of the most controversial border crossings in the world. A South Korean unification activist crossed the border into North Korea illegally to speak with authorities.

Now: On the North Korean side of the border at the DMZ there is a bit of a party going on, as this activist receives flowers and cheers from government officials and supporters. The South Korean security and police are watching on their side of the border, waiting for him to step across so he can be arrested for illegally entering North Korea. As soon as he crosses the border he gets arrested by South Korean officials, under loud protest of the North Koreans on their side of the border. Also the North Korean guards are unable to do anything but look as the activist is being taken away.

Good for the North-Korean regime propaganda, to show how the North-Korean regime is nice and liberal and the South-Korean regime is repressive ...
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Old December 24th, 2014, 10:57 PM   #11990
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That was uncalled-for.
(And "ignorance" about what, frankly?)

Merry Christmas to you, too.

Reported.
And welcome to my "ignore" list. So to speak.
I think that he doesn't celebrate Christmas tomorrow.
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That was uncalled-for.
(And "ignorance" about what, frankly?)
Serbian is a phonetic language and one letter corresponds to one sound. This is a source of enormous pride for Serbians. Not sure why, but it is. So, your questioning of this practice must have hurt BL2's feelings.
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I think that he doesn't celebrate Christmas tomorrow.
January 7, then?
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Old December 25th, 2014, 01:07 AM   #11993
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I must say your Hungarian spelling is perfect :-)
Writing this name so is absolutely wrong, though. In Hungary family names were never transliterated.
oh, really?
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Note that in Hungary names are used in reversed order relative to most of Western languages: family name first, given name last. So e.g. the current prime minister's name is "Orbán Viktor", but writing in English/German/etc. the order is usually reversed and is written as "Viktor Orbán" in order to avoid misunderstandings.
Romanians from Transylvania also use the Hungarian order: name first, and given name. It's an instinct. In the rest of the country, the order is: given name and family name. When I introduce myself I use Hungarian order
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Old December 25th, 2014, 11:31 AM   #11995
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Romanians from Transylvania also use the Hungarian order: name first, and given name. It's an instinct. In the rest of the country, the order is: given name and family name. When I introduce myself I use Hungarian order
It's the same in Bavaria but not generally in Germany. China, Japan and Korea begin with family name too.... So, it's quite common.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_...king_countries
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There is a "POZOR! Statni hranice" sign, also there are border stones.

Yes, a very discrete sign. On the Polish side, no "Rzeczpospolita Polska - Granica Państwa" sign.

Actually the village is signed
https://maps.google.pl/maps?q=Mladko...,50.38,,2,1.05
You misunderstood me (or maybe I wasn't clear ). There is no roadsign directing to any village across the border

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No change in road lay-out, signs and language?
Sorry I've only noticed your comment to my post only now.
Of course, on both sides of the border you've got different roadsigns. However, on neither side of the border you've got any sign directing you to any village across the border. In his specific place, the border between Poland and the Czech Republic looks like a small car-park outside a curve (from the Czech side) or almost like a dead-end road (from the Polish side).

And as I've noticed only now also the pics of the Serbian-Romanian border, I cannot help myself asking how is Tito nowadays seen from former Yugoslav republics. If you believe this is not the place to talk about it, you an reply to me in a PM.


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Wouldn't Cyrillic be more usual?

And transliterating a person's name...I've never seen that from one Latin-alphabet language to another.
Try Lithuanian or Latvian Two languages written in Latin alphabet which transliterate every single person's name.
- Adam Mickiewicz - the famous Polish poet - becomes Adomas Mickevičius (Lithuanian) or Ādams Mickēvičs (Latvian).
- Bill Clinton becomes respectively Bilas Klintonas or Bills Klintons,
- Harry Potter becomes respectively Haris Poteris and Harijs Poters, etc.
- The funniest part about Lithuanian is with places like Caracas or Las Vegas - which already have an "as" at the end ... but it's not enough (Karakasas or Las Vegasas)

I remember at the end of the 90s during a visit of Tony Blair in Albania they showed on French TV Albanian newspapers with a big headline "Bler" Do Albanians still transliterate?
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Old December 25th, 2014, 03:20 PM   #11997
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Serbian is a phonetic language and one letter corresponds to one sound. This is a source of enormous pride for Serbians. Not sure why, but it is. So, your questioning of this practice must have hurt BL2's feelings.
not at all and that was not question but statement.
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In Latvian foreign names are also transliterated, even those using Latin alphabets.
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I remember at the end of the 90s during a visit of Tony Blair in Albania they showed on French TV Albanian newspapers with a big headline "Bler" Do Albanians still transliterate?
Yes! There are some great street names in Tirana you have to think about before understanding Bulevardi Zhan D'Ark
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Just to let you know that one thread got locked already because of all this Slavic language bullshit. Just sayin....
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