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Old January 27th, 2015, 09:25 AM   #12441
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You may probably achieve the 95 km/h average speed on the few motorways that Finland counts, but no way on the 1+1 trunk roads, though general speed limit is 100 km/h, but many (if not majority) stretches are 80 km/h, with local limits sometime down to 50-60 km/h, even outside built-up areas.
Trust me. I live here.

There a only a few spots where a trunk road enters a built-up area. The average speed of 95 km/h is pretty easily achievable outside the most dense areas.

A 1+1 road in the North is a totally different thing from a 1+1 road in the Central Europe.

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Old January 27th, 2015, 12:57 PM   #12442
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Trust me. I live here.

There a only a few spots where a trunk road enters a built-up area. The average speed of 95 km/h is pretty easily achievable outside the most dense areas.

A 1+1 road in the North is a totally different thing from a 1+1 road in the Central Europe.

Yes, it possibly can be achieved when driving over the speed limit at 120-130 km/h .

Maybe it's different, though you must distinct North of Finland too, which is very different from the Central and Southern part in terms of traffic and population density.
Actually, there is a clear lack of a motorway/expressway between Sweden and South of Finland, especially on the coastal area in-between, where major cities are located, and traffic is dense. Taking about Sweden, almost the entire route to the Finnish border in Tornio is an 2+1 - 2+2 expressway; but it's only 1+1 normal road in Finland for almost the entire path, in spite of having bigger towns on its way .

Swedish-Finnish border in Haparanda-Tornio:

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Old January 27th, 2015, 04:13 PM   #12443
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I imagine most people trying to get from the heavily populated areas of Sweden to the heavily populated areas of Finland go by boat?
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Old January 27th, 2015, 07:36 PM   #12444
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I imagine most people trying to get from the heavily populated areas of Sweden to the heavily populated areas of Finland go by boat?
There's a shopping mall in the area where they accept either Swedish coins and Euro (Finnish) and time is in two clocks always with Swedish and Finnish time

(guess the store and... thus, guess in which side of the border they are)
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Old January 27th, 2015, 07:54 PM   #12445
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I'm lost. Is Gibraltar in Schengen?
Of course not. What was intended to do is a part of the terminal to be free to travel for these entering it from Spain and flying anywhere else in Spain. Other movements, including entering the other part of the airport, would require to get through a border check.
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Old January 28th, 2015, 12:20 AM   #12446
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And there was a Madrid-Gibraltar for two or three years (yeah, a new terminal for only three years). Passengers from Madrid to Gibraltar had to have a custom control either in Madrid and in Gibraltar. Passengers from Madrid to La Linea didn't have any kind of control
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Old January 28th, 2015, 01:21 AM   #12447
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And there was a Madrid-Gibraltar for two or three years (yeah, a new terminal for only three years). Passengers from Madrid to Gibraltar had to have a custom control either in Madrid and in Gibraltar. Passengers from Madrid to La Linea didn't have any kind of control
Flights never started to La Linea, the infrastructure on the Spanish side of the border was never built. Madrid-Gibraltar flights did start (and finish) as you said - but there was never a flight to La Linea. All the Madrid-Gibraltar flights were international (and non-Schengen). To cut a very long story short - Spain didn't build the infrastructure on the Spanish side to allow passengers the ability to fly from x to La Linea without entering Gibraltar. It was supposed to be something similar to Geneva Airport and the French sector - but it didn't happen.. The two theories I know is that - 1) Malaga Airport were very unhappy at the thought of competition and 2) Loads were so poor on the Madrid-Gibraltar service that Spain didn't see the point in building the terminal.
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Old January 28th, 2015, 01:46 AM   #12448
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Of course there is not a new airport, it is the same with a refurbished terminal.

We could find old posts about works when they were going on.

And situation was quite similar to Mulhouse and Geneva, for instance (but quite smaller, of course)
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Old January 29th, 2015, 08:45 PM   #12449
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Old January 29th, 2015, 09:11 PM   #12450
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Border between Bulgaria and Romania.
Bulgarian side ,Silistra.

the second fence is the border.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1151...vwIw!2e0?hl=bg

closer

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1190...RXJQ!2e0?hl=bg

Romanian side

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1097...7Fyw!2e0?hl=bg

second, highest fence is the border.


https://www.google.com/maps/@44.1100...HIfQ!2e0?hl=bg


bulgarian side, Romania on the right.

https://www.google.com/maps/@44.0839...9AQA!2e0?hl=bg
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Old January 29th, 2015, 11:32 PM   #12451
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Presevo border crossing (SRB-FYROM)


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Old February 7th, 2015, 04:20 PM   #12452
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The international border crossings thread has been unlocked for more than a day.
There you go! Remember, only border crossings, for other topics there's always The Roadside Rest Area.

Incidentally, this is where they built a garage so small the French snowplunger didn't fit in .
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Old February 7th, 2015, 05:24 PM   #12453
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That place is not located "there" but "here"

More or less where the "France" signal.
It is a really shoddy work, prepared for winter machines for both sides of the pass (both countries)

I uploaded a picture about it I think.

BTW, between the region of Aragon and Aquitaine and Aragon and Midi-Pyrénées there are two border passes where in both sides roads are managed by regional government, not French or Spanish governments. In both cases, the same entreprises manages maintenance in the two countries
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Old February 7th, 2015, 07:42 PM   #12454
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Mods, is the discussion about Gibraltar Airport and the binational nature of it on-topic? I found out some more information about it, but I don't want this thread to be locked!
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Old border crossing and ferry between Austria and Slovakia (Angern an der March - Záhorská Ves)











The border checks are obviously gone, but the ferry was not in operation at the time of my visit due to high flood level of Morava/March river. The transport costs 2 € for a driver and 1 € for an adult.

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Old February 7th, 2015, 09:25 PM   #12456
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Mods, is the discussion about Gibraltar Airport and the binational nature of it on-topic? I found out some more information about it, but I don't want this thread to be locked!
I do not moderate this forum but if you want to glance a Spanish thread about it, just PM me. It is an 100% ontopic thread (only about infrastructure, operations) and it's a long time it doesn't have movement.
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Voladaaa - was that border crossing limited to A/SK nationals before 2004? It seems ridiculously overbuilt for a small river crossing...
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Voladaaa - was that border crossing limited to A/SK nationals before 2004? It seems ridiculously overbuilt for a small river crossing...
It was opened on 1st May 2001 for EU, Czech republic and Slovak citizens. The set of countries were expanded one year later to citizens of all countries in the world that did not need to have visa to enter Slovak republic. Essentially, it was replacement of a bridge bombed in 1945. The border crossing (obviously) still operates in certain hours in a day.
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It was opened on 1st May 2001 for EU, Czech republic and Slovak citizens. The set of countries were expanded one year later to citizens of all countries in the world that did not need to have visa to enter Slovak republic. Essentially, it was replacement of a bridge bombed in 1945. The border crossing (obviously) still operates in certain hours in a day.
Anyway, it is the westmost point of Slovakia. I am not sure if there will be new bridge one day. There is still a lack of road connection across Morava/March river. One bridge for pedestrians and bicycles in Bratislava and one bridge between Hohenau and Sekule. And maybe in future there will be the motorway bridge between S8.at and A4.sk.
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Old February 8th, 2015, 12:28 AM   #12460
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Old border crossing and ferry between Austria and Slovakia (Angern an der March - Záhorská Ves)
The border checks are obviously gone, but the ferry was not in operation at the time of my visit due to high flood level of Morava/March river. The transport costs 2 € for a driver and 1 € for an adult.

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