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Old February 16th, 2015, 09:15 PM   #12541
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Here it is. There's not even such a thing as EU customs, they are run individually by member states. And customs will normally randomly check anyone anywhere. Even within Schengen...

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You seem to confuse immigration policies and actual border "curtaining and isolation".
While, I agree that USA and Canada have tougher immigration policies than EU, especially for "criminals", they do have quite porous borders and nothing like "border controls everywhere and anywhere" in place in EU .
And it's true: EU unlike the US, give "visa-free" pass to anyone from Honduras, one of the most dangerous and criminally ruled country in the world, and to many other "unstable and heavily perilous" countries. Moreover, EU customs don't even ask them question when they arrive .
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Old February 16th, 2015, 09:40 PM   #12542
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Here it is. There's not even such a thing as EU customs, they are run individually by member states. And customs will normally randomly check anyone anywhere. Even within Schengen...
When I was writting about "EU customs" is to mean all EU national customs which are member of the European Union Customs Union and Schengen agreements, and therefore apply EU rules and/or Schengen policies. So yes, EU "frontiers" relies on national customs. But, they "must" apply EU/Schengen laws, and can't make "individual" ones.

Anyway, I don't see any justification for not knowing anything about EU borders . I also think that we are deviating of the subject...
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Old February 16th, 2015, 10:07 PM   #12543
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You are confusing customs with immigration to begin with. And even within Schengen members not all goods are free to enter countries. There is still a limit on for example tobacco and alcohol and exceeding those limits and you are subjected to duty and excise when caught by local customs.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 10:11 PM   #12544
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I also think that we are deviating of the subject...
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Old February 16th, 2015, 10:20 PM   #12545
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You are confusing customs with immigration to begin with. And even within Schengen members not all goods are free to enter countries. There is still a limit on for example tobacco and alcohol and exceeding those limits and you are subjected to duty and excise when caught by local customs.
No, I'm not confusing customs with immigration policies to begin with.
And I know very well - being from a country that has some restrictions and taxes on imports - that not all Schengen members are applying EU rules, because first they are not in EU and have the right to do so. But, EU/Schengen visa policies is touching all of Schengen members . Anyway, all EU members that have a land external border are member of Schengen "EU curtain", except for Romania, Bulgaria and Croatia "porous" borders (that's why I posted you the link).

You seem very confused with that. Anyway, what's your point (if you have one)?
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Old February 16th, 2015, 10:22 PM   #12546
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You still don't get it. There's a limit even within the EU.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 10:24 PM   #12547
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Old February 16th, 2015, 10:30 PM   #12548
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You still don't get it. There's a limit even within the EU.
So, may you finally get to the point then ?

Is it, per example, for cigarettes and counterfeits products like between France and Spain or France and Italy?
I didn't mentioned it, because its IMHO too petty of being worth it.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 10:32 PM   #12549
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Old February 16th, 2015, 10:44 PM   #12550
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Old February 16th, 2015, 11:00 PM   #12551
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.
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Old February 16th, 2015, 11:14 PM   #12552
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Old February 17th, 2015, 12:20 AM   #12553
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I am talking border crossings with John Maynard. We're talking excise duties you're allowed to bring across the border, and in answer to his question: limits on duty paid products applies to any member state within the EU.
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Old February 17th, 2015, 01:27 AM   #12554
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The thinkmetric thing was not relevant here. Unless this is really signposted at the US-Canadian border.
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Old February 17th, 2015, 01:28 AM   #12555
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I think only in BC they have them, but most provinces have a similar kind of sign, not always posted
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Old February 17th, 2015, 04:07 AM   #12556
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http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uplo...day-metric.jpg

Came across that in looking for a Quebec example and couldn't resist.

Anyhoo, can't find on StreetView the one on Autoroute 15 leaving Saint-Bernard-de-Lacolle. Ce foutu camion is probably in the way.
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Old February 17th, 2015, 06:09 AM   #12557
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Old February 18th, 2015, 01:38 AM   #12558
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http://uberhumor.com/wp-content/uplo...day-metric.jpg

Came across that in looking for a Quebec example and couldn't resist.

Anyhoo, can't find on StreetView the one on Autoroute 15 leaving Saint-Bernard-de-Lacolle. Ce foutu camion is probably in the way.
I think there's one on Rte 203 entering from Covey Hill, maybe that one you will like I like the view from that hill, on a clear day, you can see downtown, many km away.

There's also one on Hwy 50 in the vicinity of the Mirabel airport and I, believe, one somewhere in the area of the Dorval Airport (but possibly not there anymore, the road configuration is different every week )

I think there is a similar Ontario style one on Hwy 405 and the QEW entering from the US, but... I honestly don't remember anything about them...
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Old February 18th, 2015, 04:36 AM   #12559
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Old Horgos crossing might be reopened this year and Morahalom Spa town is proposing opening another crossing nearby for people visiting their town from Serbia so that they don't have to wait at the main crossing

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Old February 18th, 2015, 08:55 AM   #12560
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San Ysidro/Tijuana Border

New (temporary?) border crossing at San Ysidro into Mexico.



Video of the drive from about a mile before the border to the first toll booth along Mexico 1-D, near Playas de Tijuana, heading towards Rosarito.

(Leaving US at 1:35, Mexican inspection station at 2:58.)

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