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Old February 27th, 2015, 07:40 PM   #12661
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[F][B] Le Seau-Seule nr Bailleul







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Old February 27th, 2015, 07:47 PM   #12662
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Is it normal to see Belgique written in Dutch in the southern side of the country?
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Old February 27th, 2015, 07:48 PM   #12663
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[F][B] Nieppe-Bizet (Rue de la Clef d'Hollande)

No national signs on this border.




The borderline can clearly be seen here. Darker darker tarmac - Belgium.


Looking towards France.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 07:51 PM   #12664
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Spotted near the above border crossings. French side.

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Old February 27th, 2015, 07:56 PM   #12665
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Is it normal to see Belgique written in Dutch in the southern side of the country?
It's Dutch speaking part of Belgium. There is about 2 kilometres to French (actually bilingual) Hainaut.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 08:01 PM   #12666
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[F][B] E42

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Old February 27th, 2015, 08:03 PM   #12667
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There is a "facility" area in Mouscron and surroundings, which is in the province of Hanuit, but it's actually multilingual.



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Old February 27th, 2015, 08:09 PM   #12668
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Old February 27th, 2015, 08:15 PM   #12669
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[B][D] Lichtenbusch



New sign (white one on the right) on the border.






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Old February 27th, 2015, 08:16 PM   #12670
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That is ANOTHER different area on the other side of Kortrijk, within West-Flanders, an enclave as you wish. The Mouscron area is not an enclave.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 08:53 PM   #12671
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Moeskroen/Mouscron is a city of 60.000 people that was origionally part of the Flanders province of West Flanders but became mostly French speaking over the years. When the linguistic border was set up, it became part of the Walloon province of Hainaut.

The city became officially part of Wallonia in 1963, yet it is fully bilingual by law.
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On another note, Mouskroen/Mouscron is almost fully dependent on Tourcoing/Roubaix/Lille metropole as it functions more as a suburb to that area.
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Old February 27th, 2015, 10:21 PM   #12672
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it is fully bilingual by law.
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On another note, Mouskroen/Mouscron is almost fully dependent on Tourcoing/Roubaix/Lille metropole as it functions more as a suburb to that area.
As bilingual as Kraainem, Drogenbos or the Voerstreek, if I've understood correctly. :-)

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Old February 27th, 2015, 10:24 PM   #12673
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It's not letting me "like" those, so I'll like this.

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Old February 28th, 2015, 11:53 AM   #12674
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As bilingual as Kraainem, Drogenbos or the Voerstreek, if I've understood correctly. :-)

So what's your point, Captain Wallonia?
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Old February 28th, 2015, 02:37 PM   #12675
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As bilingual as Kraainem, Drogenbos or the Voerstreek, if I've understood correctly. :-)

Well, some of those 'faciliteiten gemeenten' have more French or more Dutch speakers or more German speakers.

There are 27 of these official bilingual area's in Belgium and they can be Dutch-German, Dutch-French or French-German

(Names in Dutch when there is one)
1. Komen-Waasten 2. Mesen 3. Moeskroen 4. Spiere-Helkijn 5. Ronse 6. Vloesberg 7. Bever 8. Edingen 9. Drogenbos 10. Linkebeek 11. Sint-Genesius-Rode 12. Wemmel 13. Kraainem 14. Wezembeek-Oppem 15. Herstappe 16. Voeren 17. Malmedy 18. Waimes 19-22. Lontzen, Raeren, Eupen, Kelmis 23-27. Burg-Reuland, Sankt Vith, Amel, Bütgenbach, Büllingen
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Old February 28th, 2015, 03:02 PM   #12676
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So what's your point, Captain Wallonia?
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That none of those places is in fact fully bilingual by law: facilities do not give full rights, if you can call it that, to the second language. Only the Brussels Hoofdstedelijk Gewest is fully bilingual. Trust you to think I was being anti-Flemish: I saw that coming. ;-)

(That said, if anyone dared to suggest that any of the places I mentioned was "fully bilingual," the TAK would be on them faster than a Standard fan on Steven Defour.)
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Old February 28th, 2015, 03:09 PM   #12677
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Just a small note about airport borders. I passed through Malaga and Berlin-Schoenfeld Airports this last week, and what struck me was the difference between the two. Malaga is a true Schengen border - when you leave the plane, you don't pass through any border controls - there are no (visible) Customs controls, no obligation to choose a lane, etc etc. Schoenfeld on the other hand is completely different - you have to pass by a passport control desk (although unmanned), you have to choose the red/green lane (no blue lane...) through Customs (which are manned). I'm actually surprised that the EU hasn't mandated that airports should be fully compliant with Schengen - including completely abolishing any "lanes" for Customs controls. I'm aware the blue lane is supposed to be a 'bypass' channel, but most airports simply merge it with the green lane.
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I assume you're only talking about airports that don't accept flights from outside Schengen.

Another thought: is it possible that they maintain customs & immigration facilities at certain airports that don't just in case flights need to be diverted to them?
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Old February 28th, 2015, 04:02 PM   #12679
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Old Spanish airport terminals have passport control before entering departures (or arrivals), but new terminals used to have custom booths in all fingers. They will be small ones and only used for non-Schengen flights
Therefore control exists...but it is not easy to see if you come from a Schengen area
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Old February 28th, 2015, 04:36 PM   #12680
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Old Spanish airport terminals have passport control before entering departures (or arrivals), but new terminals used to have custom booths in all fingers. They will be small ones and only used for non-Schengen flights
Therefore control exists...but it is not easy to see if you come from a Schengen area
Passenger flows in old and new airports are separated in Schengen and non-Schengen. Non-Schengen passengers pass through a passport control; there's generally one check in one point of the terminal. Schengen ones don't go through it.

European passenger terminals allow both Schengen and non-Schengen flights -they just have two itineraries. In Barcelona's T1 terminal, for example, some of the fingers are multi-purpose; they can divert passengers to the passport control or directly to the baggage claim. Older terminals have been retrofitted with similar systems.
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