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Old May 9th, 2015, 01:06 PM   #12961
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Old May 9th, 2015, 01:11 PM   #12962
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Old May 9th, 2015, 01:56 PM   #12963
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Some pictures from me from Spain-Gibraltar, crossing on foot:

La Línea de la Concepción by cinxxx, on Flickr

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Old May 9th, 2015, 02:00 PM   #12964
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Last time I was in Gibraltar, I've been three hours to enter in Spain because of political tension. The situation is now resolved ?, Since there are not so many lines, both to enter and to leave Gibraltar?
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Old May 9th, 2015, 02:06 PM   #12965
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I was on the last Friday of March, but arrived shortly after 16:00.

We were the only 2 people crossing by foot into GIB, everything was very relaxed, officers thanked us in Romanian ("mulţumesc") after providing passports. We also asked for stamps and got them.

On exit nothing checked, just a very brief look from 2 meters, from the booth at us and at our papers.
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Old May 9th, 2015, 03:46 PM   #12966
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Last time I was in Gibraltar, I've been three hours to enter in Spain because of political tension. The situation is now resolved ?, Since there are not so many lines, both to enter and to leave Gibraltar?
Everything (for the time being) has returned to normality. Exit checks are made at random (on both sides), and entry checks are swift.

However, it might be about to change. The rumours flying around Gibraltar is that Spain is planning to introduce full Schengen entry and exit checks in accordance with Schengen rules. A Spanish friend in La Linea thinks that this isn't actually the case, but that the "secondary infrastructure" will be built to avoid the problems caused by doing full searches in the main traffic lanes, which was one of the main reasons why the EU wasn't happy.

This is a drawing of what should be built there - - which clearly shows that there should be three/four lanes entering Gibraltar, with four lanes leaving Gibraltar. The equal infrastructure exists on the Gibraltar side, so exit/entry should be much smoother. The plans also show a large amount of possible inspection bays for the Spanish Aduana, so perhaps they are genuine about sorting out the mess there.

Either way, the infrastructure is still rubbish for the amount of traffic.

cinxxx, did you have a look at the pictures on the wall in the Gibraltar passport control building? And was anyone actually present in the Spanish entry Customs office (where the x-ray machines are)?

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Old May 9th, 2015, 03:57 PM   #12967
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As a EU citizen, do you need a Passport to cross into Gibraltar, or is the ID card enough?
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Old May 9th, 2015, 04:06 PM   #12968
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cinxxx, did you have a look at the pictures on the wall in the Gibraltar passport control building? And was anyone actually present in the Spanish entry Customs office (where the x-ray machines are)?
I don't think I looked, or if I did, I don't remember.
I think that someone from Spain was in the booth (can be seen in my second picture) and we only waved the passport towards him.
There was also no heavy traffic at that time.

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As a EU citizen, do you need a Passport to cross into Gibraltar, or is the ID card enough?
Afaik, ID should be enough (Gibraltar should have same status as UK island), we used our passports only to also ask for stamps.
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Old May 9th, 2015, 04:10 PM   #12969
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This is the pedestrian entry Customs control on the Gibraltar/Spain border. Strangely, the passport control is conducted outside in the open air. It's a very strange border...
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Old May 9th, 2015, 04:18 PM   #12970
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Gibraltar officers were inside, where they also checked our documents.
Only on exit to Spain did we not step anywhere inside.
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Old May 9th, 2015, 04:19 PM   #12971
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As a EU citizen, do you need a Passport to cross into Gibraltar, or is the ID card enough?
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Last time I was in Gibraltar, I've been three hours to enter in Spain because of political tension. The situation is now resolved ?, Since there are not so many lines, both to enter and to leave Gibraltar?
First of all, Gibraltar pannels translations are quite accurate (rather far from those US pannels in Spanish with a lot of mistakes).

AFAIK... you do not need to use your passport

Nowadays there's no news about Gibraltar and as you know "no news = good news". Last time there were long queues was after a great corruption case in the government in august. They "needed" to submit news to newspapers in august to avoid talking about them.
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Old May 9th, 2015, 04:21 PM   #12972
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In addition.... it is a pity. Next person to visit Gibraltar, please, spot the "look left" signals for Pedestrians in the streets.

They are in the same format than in other corner of the UK but.... "look left" instead of "look right" because Gibraltar is right hand driving. In google we can search something but not to much
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Old May 9th, 2015, 06:38 PM   #12973
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Gibraltar officers were inside, where they also checked our documents.
Only on exit to Spain did we not step anywhere inside.
That's weird, when I was there, you had no choice but to go through the building above. Maybe it's connected to the ongoing building works...

About Crimea - as far as I know, both sides are building permanent facilities. It looks like we're headed for a Kosovo-style "solution" there - Ukraine will recognise the line as an administrative boundary, while Russia will recognise it as an international boundary.

The other thing - as far as I know, the checkpoints are also working normally.
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Old May 9th, 2015, 08:07 PM   #12974
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First of all, Gibraltar pannels translations are quite accurate (rather far from those US pannels in Spanish with a lot of mistakes).
Is it so true? I saw "approximacion aeropuerto" and read "approximately an airport" I mean I understand it is "proximate" but surely Spaniard normally would use another word?
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Old May 9th, 2015, 10:28 PM   #12975
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A couple of days ago I crossed the Slovenian-Croatian border by train between Ormož (SLO) and Čakovec (HR) (just for fun, because I'd never driven there before). However, the train stops in Čakovec for just 9 minutes and goes back to Slovenia (I've already been to Čakovec anyway). It was a bit awkward when the Croatian cop came on the train and asked me why I don't exit, he was like 'wtf'. The whole thing was even more ridiculous as I was the only passenger on the entire train.
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A couple of days ago I crossed the Slovenian-Croatian border by train between Ormož (SLO) and Čakovec (HR) (just for fun, because I'd never driven there before). However, the train stops in Čakovec for just 9 minutes and goes back to Slovenia (I've already been to Čakovec anyway). It was a bit awkward when the Croatian cop came on the train and asked me why I don't exit, he was like 'wtf'. The whole thing was even more ridiculous as I was the only passenger on the entire train.
Hey, that's an interesting question - how are border controls carried out there? By the fact that the Croatian cop got on the train, does it mean that they're carried out in the station rather than on the train? If they're carried out in the station, then I need to go this summer!

(and likewise, what about the Slovenian controls?)
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No, they are carried out in train (or by the door of the train, if you exit).

And I was checked by the same Slovenian cop twice in half an hour.
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Old May 9th, 2015, 11:47 PM   #12978
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No, they are carried out in train (or by the door of the train, if you exit).
Bah I'm still hunting for somewhere in Europe where physical border controls are carried out in the station - ignoring the obvious Eurostar ones, I haven't found anywhere else. There's still Przemysl, but the cost of taking the sleeper train to L'viv just for the sake of going through border controls in the station is way too high. The other one in Poland, Kroscienko, has been closed for years now due to the vast amount of demolition done by smugglers. There's also one in Terespol, but the Belarus visa is such a pain to obtain.

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And I was checked by the same Slovenian cop twice in half an hour.
I hope the answer was "what"

I've never understood why border police are so confused by someone crossing after a few minutes. It'll soon be time for my yearly "annoy the border guards in Hum na Sutli/Rogatec late at night" trip
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Old May 10th, 2015, 12:32 AM   #12979
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I hope the answer was "what"
He probably remembered me, but he didn't say anything.
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Old May 10th, 2015, 01:57 AM   #12980
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Is it so true? I saw "approximacion aeropuerto" and read "approximately an airport" I mean I understand it is "proximate" but surely Spaniard normally would use another word?
Will use the same words but maybe with other additional words "aproximacion AL aeropuerto" maybe more correct....but really not bad (and better than San Diego pannels)
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