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Old May 10th, 2015, 02:41 AM   #12981
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Bah I'm still hunting for somewhere in Europe where physical border controls are carried out in the station - ignoring the obvious Eurostar ones, I haven't found anywhere else.
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I've never understood why border police are so confused by someone crossing after a few minutes.
Afaik it's an alarm for customs in their handbook to search you for smuggling something.
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Old May 12th, 2015, 05:25 AM   #12982
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Nice one found on the net, Săcuieni/Székelyhíd (RO) -> Létavértes (H), with genuine Socialist-era Dacia. The mandatory snow chains sign is quite surprising, though I don't know how mountainous that region is.

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Old May 12th, 2015, 03:43 PM   #12983
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The mandatory snow chains sign is quite surprising, though I don't know how mountainous that region is.
In Hungary? Let me guess.
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Old May 13th, 2015, 01:52 AM   #12984
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That must be an old photo, Hungary changed the official name of the country a while ago and it's not so careless like Serbia for example to let the old signs rot for decades.
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Old May 13th, 2015, 02:30 PM   #12985
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Border crossing between Slovenia and the new Kingdom of Enclava between Slovenia and Croatia.


http://www.panoramio.com/photo/86056335
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Old May 13th, 2015, 07:54 PM   #12986
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Croatia has some strange neighbours: Enclava, Liberland...
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Old May 13th, 2015, 11:19 PM   #12987
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Can you point them into a map, please?

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Old May 13th, 2015, 11:35 PM   #12988
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Can you point them into a map, please?

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Old May 14th, 2015, 02:01 AM   #12989
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Brezovica seems a sort of Baarle-Nassau/Hertog
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Old May 14th, 2015, 01:09 PM   #12990
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There were several enclaves and exclaves in Brezovica when it was the border between the Holy Roman Empire and Hungary. Today's border was determined in 1824 or shortly before that.
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Border crossing between Slovenia and the new Kingdom of Enclava between Slovenia and Croatia.


http://www.panoramio.com/photo/86056335
The house which roof can be seen to he left is located inside "enclava". Picture taken a rainy day in May 2011 by me.
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Old May 15th, 2015, 02:16 AM   #12992
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Have you noticed another no man's land (terra nullius) close to this one?

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Old May 15th, 2015, 02:21 AM   #12993
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Old May 15th, 2015, 02:27 AM   #12994
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I see some territory just to the West of that terra nullius which is claimed by both Slovenia and Croatia .
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Old May 16th, 2015, 11:34 PM   #12997
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Bah I'm still hunting for somewhere in Europe where physical border controls are carried out in the station - ignoring the obvious Eurostar ones, I haven't found anywhere else.
Basel SNCF used to be an example. This is the part of the Basel SBB station used by trains to/from France. Before entering the SNCF part, you used to pass through border check and customs. I guess border checks have been abolished now Switzerland is part of Schengen, but customs may still be carried out in the station.
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Old May 16th, 2015, 11:47 PM   #12998
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Basel SNCF used to be an example. This is the part of the Basel SBB station used by trains to/from France. Before entering the SNCF part, you used to pass through border check and customs. I guess border checks have been abolished now Switzerland is part of Schengen, but customs may still be carried out in the station.
I'm not sure we you mean the same thing, but Basel Badischer also had controls in the station, right in the underground passage.

I didn't get close enough to Basel SNCF, but is there a door to the platform? IIRC, the station was a bit west to the main (HB).
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Basel SNCF used to be an example. This is the part of the Basel SBB station used by trains to/from France. Before entering the SNCF part, you used to pass through border check and customs. I guess border checks have been abolished now Switzerland is part of Schengen, but customs may still be carried out in the station.
The infrastructure is still there, but as you say, the border checks have been abolished. It's the same with Basel Badischer, the infrastructure is still there and Customs are still present, but checks are very very rare in the CH -> EU direction.

On a related note about European borders, it seems that the madness concerning local border crossings in Croatia/Slovenia has finally been solved. The local border crossings are now open to everyone who has the right of free movement in the EU without any need for a silly local border pass or otherwise. Time to go and annoy them some more, I guess!
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Old May 17th, 2015, 12:04 AM   #13000
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Bah I'm still hunting for somewhere in Europe where physical border controls are carried out in the station - ignoring the obvious Eurostar ones, I haven't found anywhere else. There's still Przemysl, but the cost of taking the sleeper train to L'viv just for the sake of going through border controls in the station is way too high. The other one in Poland, Kroscienko, has been closed for years now due to the vast amount of demolition done by smugglers. There's also one in Terespol, but the Belarus visa is such a pain to obtain.



I hope the answer was "what"

I've never understood why border police are so confused by someone crossing after a few minutes. It'll soon be time for my yearly "annoy the border guards in Hum na Sutli/Rogatec late at night" trip

There were officially no custom controls but in the late 90s I crossed several times the Irun-Hendaye border by train. All former booths remained... and in Hendaye there were a nightmare. I had to go down and up by stairs with the baggage twice to go to the main building.

There was a small building with a passport booth and later a baggage control desk with the Spanish police logo. Later a yellow line in the ground and the same things but with the French police logo as Customs.

In Irun, the same thing conversely (but not so many stairs to cross...)
Even if you had entered by train in the other country it was supossed you hadn't crossed the border until you had crossed that yellow line.


I remember only once to have a random baggage control in France by French police (in "their side") and other one a random passport control in Spain by Spanish police. I remember they didn't do it in the booths but in a corridor and without uniform (an officer showed me the badge and asked for passport). I said I hadn't but I could look for my ID card anywhere in the baggage. He asked me for my destination, I replied and he let me keep on (it seemed they were looking for some type of passengers and it is easy to discover the city where I come with my accent)



All trains arrived to Hendaye (or Irun) and returned empty. First of all, it was easier to make then a passport control (only for arrivals, never for departures because all trains in Hendaye departed within France and all trains in Irun departed within Spain), secondly, we had different currencies and having all trains departing from Irun/Hendaye within the same country they avoided to sell tickets with a different currency

Nowadays, nothing to worry about currencies (due to the Euro) and shouldn't have any custom controls... but I had two of them being in the Schengen area already.



Furthermore, I wonder how they did controls here by both polices

https://www.google.es/maps/@43.35280...Hw!2e0!6m1!1e1

In front of main Hendaye SNCF station there is a narrow gauge railway. It shuttles to St.Sebastian and last/first station is Hendaye, just after crossing the border. If you take the train for only one stop, next call is in the other side of the river, Spanish side.

I ask it because I didn't notice any former booth or so... and should have even from French and Spanish police in some other time





And by the way... some years later "this ones" were railway border controls from a train coming from Paris to a train going to Barcelona (or conversely) at Figueras

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(I do not know credits about this picture but google says it is located in SSC, btw!!!!!)


It will be hard to see it again due to now, all SNCF and Renfe services are enlarged and Figueres-Vilafant is not a terminus any more
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