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Old July 8th, 2015, 02:01 PM   #13241
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tolls or border checks ?
Border control

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Old July 8th, 2015, 02:16 PM   #13242
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Because Romania still isn't in Schengen.
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Old July 8th, 2015, 04:02 PM   #13243
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True.
Note that the border posts are temporary or at least look like temporary.
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Old July 8th, 2015, 06:17 PM   #13244
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Temporary in that they hope Romania will get into schengen soon.

Those huts will still be there in 5 years time.
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Old July 8th, 2015, 10:12 PM   #13245
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Systematic border controls may also be temporarily re-activated between two Schengen countries if mandated by exceptional circumstances (typical case: for security reasons during summits involving high-ranking statesmen).

So building those "light" huts is not a complete waste of money even if RO joins Schengen faster than expected.

Plus, who knows where a review of Schengen regulations will lead, especially with the current flood of illegal immigrants that Europe is receiving. The general absence of person controls could become unmaintainable; there is already heavy pressure from wealthier Schengen regions for allowing more border surveillance.
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Old July 8th, 2015, 10:19 PM   #13246
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A little bus service that crosses twice a border...

http://cdn.ter.sncf.com/medias/PDF/a...tcm50-9019.pdf

In 1970 the railway line Canfranc-Oloron broke down and was replaced (till today) by buses. They replaced by a Canfranc - Oloron bus crossing the Somport mountain pass and through the N-330 in Spain and RN-134 in France

These are (in French) schedules for this summer

http://cdn.ter.sncf.com/medias/PDF/a...tcm50-9019.pdf

The bus will not depart from Canfranc station but from Somport ski resort in the French side. One minute after (and not more than 1 km away), a call in the mountain pass (called Douane, but there are no customs at all), later it enters in Spain and calls in Canfranc station for transfer to railway or bus through the south... and return Oloron via Somport tunnel

(I guess that a Somport mountain pass-Les Forges d'Abel is faster making a tour via Canfranc and tunnel rather than direct road because they could depart from Canfranc, calling in the pass and going down to Les Forges)

First time it crosses the border is just after departing. Second time is in the Somport tunnel approaching Les Forges d'Abel
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Old July 9th, 2015, 12:11 AM   #13247
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Temporary in that they hope Romania will get into schengen soon.

Those huts will still be there in 5 years time.
I hope they will never get into Schengen. To destroy a country, take away it's borders. Schengen is evil.
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Old July 9th, 2015, 07:29 PM   #13248
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Today ciprebbe @ pum uploaded a video regarding the new motorway opening between Arad and the Hungarian border, including the new border crossing.

The new border crossing, seen from above:



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Old July 9th, 2015, 07:35 PM   #13249
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Old July 11th, 2015, 03:11 PM   #13250
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Romania and Hungary are now connected by a motorway. The new motorway (on both sides of the border) and the new border crossing are now open



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Old July 11th, 2015, 03:16 PM   #13251
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Old July 11th, 2015, 03:57 PM   #13252
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I hope they will never get into Schengen. To destroy a country, take away it's borders. Schengen is evil.
It is not evil per se (on the contrary, I always found it very comfortable to transit Schengen countries w/o border checks). It becomes evil when clueless EU bureaucrats are against effective protection of Schengen (or EU, for that matter) external borders.

Effective protection means not allowing masses of illegal border crossers in (be them arriving on land or by sea). Effective protection also means swift expulsion (say within 2-3 days) of unrecognized asylum seekers - instead of feeding them for months while they make extra money with narco-trafficking. Same for any asylum seeker (recognized or not) who commits any offense.


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Romania and Hungary are now connected by a motorway. The new motorway (on both sides of the border) and the new border crossing are now open
Time to plan a Transylvania sightseeing tour!
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Old July 11th, 2015, 04:15 PM   #13253
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Time to plan a Transylvania sightseeing tour!
Don't miss Banat
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Old July 11th, 2015, 08:10 PM   #13254
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Aerial video of the new border crossing between Romania and Hungary:

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Old July 11th, 2015, 08:16 PM   #13255
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I'm guess that void in the middle of the complex is the "provision" for the Schengen by-pass on the expressway on both ends
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Old July 12th, 2015, 10:52 AM   #13256
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I'm guess that void in the middle of the complex is the "provision" for the Schengen by-pass on the expressway on both ends
Yep, should be easy to convert to Schengen without fuss.

I was thinking about why this border crossing has been built like this, and the only logical thing is that the Schengen Borders Code requires all external international borders to be built according to a set of standards. So the barriers, cameras, etc - Hungary may have been forced to have such things.

But certainly in this case, it would've made sense to route all trucks and non-EU via the old crossing - unless of course, Romania has been told unofficially that Schengen accession simply won't happen in the forseeable future.

In related news, Croatia started the process of joining Schengen a couple of weeks ago on target. But it will be politically impossible for Croatia to join without Romania and Bulgaria. As for Romania and Bulgaria operating a mini-Schengen between them - it is possible (and I don't think the EU cares) - but Romania may not want to get involved with Bulgaria. All reports are that Romania is ready to join, but there are still huge question marks over Bulgaria.
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Old July 12th, 2015, 11:25 AM   #13257
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Congratulations to Arad and Timișoara, now are cities connected to European Motorway Network.
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Old July 12th, 2015, 05:29 PM   #13258
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Yep, should be easy to convert to Schengen without fuss.

I was thinking about why this border crossing has been built like this, and the only logical thing is that the Schengen Borders Code requires all external international borders to be built according to a set of standards. So the barriers, cameras, etc - Hungary may have been forced to have such things.

But certainly in this case, it would've made sense to route all trucks and non-EU via the old crossing - unless of course, Romania has been told unofficially that Schengen accession simply won't happen in the forseeable future.

In related news, Croatia started the process of joining Schengen a couple of weeks ago on target. But it will be politically impossible for Croatia to join without Romania and Bulgaria. As for Romania and Bulgaria operating a mini-Schengen between them - it is possible (and I don't think the EU cares) - but Romania may not want to get involved with Bulgaria. All reports are that Romania is ready to join, but there are still huge question marks over Bulgaria.
I was thinking of another solution: Romania and Bulgaria both join the Schengen Area, but control on the Bulgarian-Greek border remains.
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Old July 13th, 2015, 12:27 AM   #13259
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I was thinking of another solution: Romania and Bulgaria both join the Schengen Area, but control on the Bulgarian-Greek border remains.
What? Greece is a Schengen country! That would not only make any sense, it would not be impossible at all.
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And what would actually change for Greece? Nothing, because there's already control on its border with Bulgaria.
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