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Old July 14th, 2015, 04:39 PM   #13281
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Is it really required that RO and BG need to join Schengen together? If one of the two fulfills all requirements earlier, why also the other should wait?
I don't think the RO/BG border meets Schengen standards.

I've found this - if it really is from the RO/BG border, you can see the work needed to bring it up to standards. But if it becomes obvious that Romania is fine, then I could see the EU asking Romania to bring them upto scratch in exchange for Schengen membership.



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Old July 14th, 2015, 05:49 PM   #13282
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But surely Romanian Roma can cross the border freely, they are EU citizens. I mean they have to show their ID but can they be denied entry?
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Exactly, Romanian Roma are EU citizens, so they can already travel freely throughout the EU.

Western Europeans don't want to open the GR-BG border because of all those immigrants in Greece, so we can at least open the BG-RO and RO-H borders (not that I care too much about them).
do Roma know what ID card is?
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Old July 14th, 2015, 10:37 PM   #13283
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do Roma know what ID card is?
When they need it to apply for welfare, they most certainly do!

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Cyprus is the 6th EU country not part of Schengen. What is their reason? Haven't they been admitted, or didn't they want?
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Old July 14th, 2015, 10:44 PM   #13284
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For Greece nothing would change.
It doesn't have any land border with Schengen countries.
Only by air travel one can take advantage of Schengen (not sure if by boat too).
There are intra-Schengen ferry services between Greece and Italy.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 10:55 PM   #13285
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Cyprus is the 6th EU country not part of Schengen. What is their reason?
First, they have to solve a little problem.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 11:19 PM   #13286
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When they need it to apply for welfare, they most certainly do!


I see fascism is spreading trough Europe and it is becoming mainstream, before fascist were afraid to state their opinion so publicly.
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Old July 14th, 2015, 11:25 PM   #13287
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go google quickly what fascism means, and then come back and tell us what you have learnt.

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Old July 14th, 2015, 11:46 PM   #13288
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this? or this?

did I google it well?
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Old July 15th, 2015, 12:09 AM   #13289
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yes, you did. Youre doing very good. Now explain how this relates to the above posts.

(nah, just kidding, please dont)
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Old July 15th, 2015, 02:39 AM   #13290
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I think it's more of a theoretical thing - although they can pass freely, there's still the opportunity to check the Schengen Information System in case they're wanted for any crimes. Schengen removes that.

It's just xenophobia, that's all. Romania is really starting to deal with corruption (unlike Bulgaria - where scandal after scandal involving traffic police happens) and really should be in.
What?

Anyway, Romania ain't joining anything without us. Deal with it
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Old July 15th, 2015, 02:42 AM   #13291
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This is the Romanian crossing at Giurgiu. It's an old picture where everything looks new. Compared to what it looks like now, I'm sure Bangladesh has border crossings that look more civilized than this.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 12:45 PM   #13292
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The picture is not so old, about 10-15 years ago (look at the Skoda Octavia). By the way, the bridge over the Danube and part of the crossing is under renovation and will be modernized (at last) until the end of the year by Strabag.
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Old July 15th, 2015, 05:10 PM   #13293
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Prague e.g.?

Btw. there are some bilingual-signs about toll obligation written both in Czech or Slovak.
This is now the only official road sign about tool obligation in the Czech R. in all border crossings


And this will be the new one from January 1, 2016


Both written in German and English only
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Old July 15th, 2015, 09:35 PM   #13294
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From 2016 the expressways will be free for small cars?
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Old July 15th, 2015, 09:46 PM   #13295
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Yes, because most of the current expressways will be motorways.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 09:22 AM   #13296
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this is a solution from the dark ages not from the 21 century.btw hungary is in schengen,right? with this number of illegal immigrants in just six months hungary shouldn't be in schengen.but the solution with the fence is just ...... " the best" .......

http://dailynewshungary.com/history-...rtain-opening/
Can you specify why should Hungary leave the Schengen? And there is a huge difference between Iron Curtain and this fence. Me, as a Schengen area citizen, can cross the border whenever I want, provided I possess all required documents (ID or passport). The same goes for people coming from outside. Iron curtain was erected to prevent citizens to flee from the country. You could have had all possible documents but once you were marked (or at least someone from your family) politically incorrect - you were not allowed to even approach the border.
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Iron curtain was erected to prevent citizens to flee from the country.
Iron Curtain 2.0 is ercted to prevent foreigners to flee into the country.
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Old July 18th, 2015, 10:04 AM   #13298
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Iron Curtain 2.0 is ercted to prevent foreigners to flee into the country.
So if a Serb or Albanian or Ethiopian or whoever with valid passport (and possible visas) wants to cross the border through regular crossing, he will not be allowed? And I though it is illegal to cross the border outside crossing either there is a fence or not (except inner Schengen borders)
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Refugees can cross the border but a lot of them will be sent back if they are just asylum-seeker. But yes, if they want to visit Schengen countries as tourists... I think it's worth for vacation but people crossing the border at the locations where the fence is built... Not at border crossings... I don't think they are on business trips or on vacation........

I call it Iron Curtain 2.0 because it's a barrier for people who want to cross the border illegal. Illegal to the laws or will of whomsoever (Schengen countries).
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Old July 18th, 2015, 11:08 AM   #13300
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Refugees can cross the border but a lot of them will be sent back if they are just asylum-seeker. But yes, if they want to visit Schengen countries as tourists... I think it's worth for vacation but people crossing the border at the locations where the fence is built... Not at border crossings... I don't think they are on business trips or on vacation........

I call it Iron Curtain 2.0 because it's a barrier for people who want to cross the border illegal. Illegal to the laws or will of whomsoever (Schengen countries).
Your last paragraphs lack logic. It is like saying: I hate jacket, because it prevents me from coldness.

Building "the Iron curtain" was, at least, basic requirement for my country to apply to join Schengen. I think the same went for Hungary.

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