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Old August 25th, 2015, 01:36 AM   #13481
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Nice Georgian pics...but one question. Booths inside a building are for pedestrian passes?
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Old August 25th, 2015, 03:39 PM   #13482
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When I crossed the Georgian-Armenian border by bus we all had to get out and walk through the building. I guess if you cross the border on foot you will get there, too.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 05:33 PM   #13483
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They just want to show off their new building
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Old August 25th, 2015, 08:53 PM   #13484
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Nice Georgian pics...but one question. Booths inside a building are for pedestrian passes?
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Old August 25th, 2015, 08:55 PM   #13485
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They just want to show off their new building
border crossings in Georgia look like a little airports. they are full of duty free shops, cafes and stores
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Old August 25th, 2015, 10:15 PM   #13486
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border crossings in Georgia look like a little airports. they are full of duty free shops, cafes and stores
Duty free shops?. You mean they sell all maximum you may entry without paying taxes?

That's weird... if you buy anything in the duty free shop, it is supposed you cannot consume it until you are in the air (not able to consum in the country).
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Old August 25th, 2015, 10:43 PM   #13487
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Duty free shops?. You mean they sell all maximum you may entry without paying taxes?

That's weird... if you buy anything in the duty free shop, it is supposed you cannot consume it until you are in the air (not able to consum in the country).
It is meant to take foreign currency out of the pockets of travelers just leaving the country, instead of letting them spend it in other countries.

Isn't it like this?
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Old August 25th, 2015, 10:49 PM   #13488
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border crossings in Georgia look like a little airports. they are full of duty free shops, cafes and stores
I kinda like this -it's a way to humanize something that's otherwise alienting, especially considering that Georgia isn't going to enter a Schengen-like agreement anytime soon.

Plus, the state gets some revenue that may pay the cost of border controls.
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Old August 25th, 2015, 10:51 PM   #13489
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Sweden/Norway border on E12

Sweden/Norway border on E12 between Tärnaby and Mo i rana. Picture taken by me in July this summer.

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Old August 25th, 2015, 11:29 PM   #13490
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Duty free shops?. You mean they sell all maximum you may entry without paying taxes?

That's weird... if you buy anything in the duty free shop, it is supposed you cannot consume it until you are in the air (not able to consum in the country).
It's not that weird - duty free shops used to exist between exit controls and the actual border in Slovenia, Bulgaria, Bosnia, Montenegro and the Czech Republic (and possibly Serbia, though I'm not certain) for instance. The USA and Canada still have duty free shops on the land border, too.

What killed them in Europe was the pressure put on by the EU to stop sales on the land borders. But the EU probably doesn't care about Georgia's borders as any thought of EU entry is a long, long way away - so they probably see it as a way to support Georgia financially.

From what I know, the Finnish-Russian border zone is becoming incredibly popular for shopping as well. I've read an article somewhere about how the Russians are selling cheap petrol, cigarettes and booze on their side of the border, while the Finns are selling...well, everything you can't get in Russia right now because of the sanctions.

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Old August 25th, 2015, 11:51 PM   #13491
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Shopping duty free "near" the border?

I guess Pas de la Casa wins every border

https://www.google.es/maps/@42.54377...8i6656!6m1!1e1

(last border stone AD-F is the building ahead. Left F, right AD). In the surroundins there are many many shops)


Edit... bank offices incluided, just in case you wanna keep your money in an offshore country.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 12:07 AM   #13492
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Andorra is not EU, though it should be I think.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 12:18 AM   #13493
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Andorra is not EU, though it should be I think.
That's right but the rest of countries mentioned above aren't too.

BTW, they will never join EU because, partially the same reason Monaco doesn't join. They will cooperate, have good relations (both their State Presidents are Spanish and French indeed) but will not join.

A great part of their economie is based on not following EU rules but their own rules. They will try not to get angry to EU, but always own rules.

As an example... their banking system give them the 10% of incomes....

That's why in Pas de la Casa all Andorran banks have an office. Since ten years ago you can cross by tunnel but before then, coming from France you had to cross the highest pass in the Pyrenees to arrive the capital. They offered offices just in the border, you arrived there, gave the money and back home...
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Old August 26th, 2015, 12:22 AM   #13494
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No no, these shops were always between the "exit" controls and the physical borderline. It came about in places such as the Czech Republic because (during Communism) - physical controls were never located next to the border line. So there was a huge amount of empty space post-1989 - which turned into ideal locations for shops.

https://www.google.pl/maps/search/ex...16.0678569,15z shows it quite well. Look just below the Chvalovice - Hate name and you'll see the site of the old CZ border crossing. There's the huge Excalibur City shopping complex just south of there (so after the CZ exit control) and the physical border line. That place was absolutely rammed full of legal and illegal things tax-free before the Czech Republic joined the EU.

(if you haven't seen it before, Excalibur City is worth a look on Street View, it's a work of art in terms of "unbelievably kitsch border shopping")
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Excalibur City looks like a theme park.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 12:42 AM   #13496
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It's not that weird - duty free shops used to exist between exit controls and the actual border in Slovenia, Bulgaria, Bosnia, Montenegro and the Czech Republic (and possibly Serbia, though I'm not certain) for instance. The USA and Canada still have duty free shops on the land border, too.

What killed them in Europe was the pressure put on by the EU to stop sales on the land borders. But the EU probably doesn't care about Georgia's borders as any thought of EU entry is a long, long way away - so they probably see it as a way to support Georgia financially.

From what I know, the Finnish-Russian border zone is becoming incredibly popular for shopping as well. I've read an article somewhere about how the Russians are selling cheap petrol, cigarettes and booze on their side of the border, while the Finns are selling...well, everything you can't get in Russia right now because of the sanctions.
The USA-Canada duty free shops are only for exiting travellers though and are pretty strictly regulated (you need to give your license plate number, etc) Usually you can't access the country again after leaving (i.e. on the motorway just before border)
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Old August 26th, 2015, 12:49 AM   #13497
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Sweden/Norway border on E12 between Tärnaby and Mo i rana. Picture taken by me in July this summer.
"Mo i Rana" sounds Albanian.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 01:00 AM   #13498
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"Mo i Rana" sounds Albanian.
Rana = frog in Italian
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Old August 26th, 2015, 01:10 AM   #13499
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Rana = wound in Slovenian.
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Old August 26th, 2015, 01:20 AM   #13500
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Speaking of duty-free purchases, Italy has this small issue with the Livigno area, which enjoys exemption of several taxes. Fuel is much cheaper there. There is an "internal customs post" here on SS301
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