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Old September 16th, 2015, 09:31 PM   #13641
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???? She already did.....
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Old September 16th, 2015, 09:43 PM   #13642
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Roszke-Horgos has apparently been shut for 30 days, but I'm guessing it's Roszke-Horgos 2 that's closed and not the main motorway connection.
No the main one is closed
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Old September 16th, 2015, 09:51 PM   #13643
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???? She already did.....
I know that, but still it's incoherent to her previous "warm welcoming" message . Now, Germany "Angie" has to cope with what she have created, otherwise she's being hypocritical and liar.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 09:58 PM   #13644
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Merkel said yesterday: "Ich muss ganz ehrlich sagen, wenn wir jetzt anfangen, uns noch entschuldigen zu müssen dafür, dass wir in Notsituationen ein freundliches Gesicht zeigen, dann ist das nicht mein Land" - "I have to say, if we even have to apologize for helping people ("showing a friendly face"), this is not my country". It's the response to internal opponents (CSU party etcetera).
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Old September 16th, 2015, 09:58 PM   #13645
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I think it is obvious: according to the experiences from Hungary, the influx of refugees leads to chaos at motorways, at railway station, at railways, at borders nobody wants.

Everybody know that zero refugees would stay in Slovakia. It has been told hundred times: quotas won't work with Schengen.
Which was created by the Hungarian government by canceling all trains to Austria, and "pilling them up" in railway stations for days. The "walk" on the motorway is a direct consequence of the hard try of the government to keep them...in Hungary . Though, now they have finally made the right decision .
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Old September 16th, 2015, 10:30 PM   #13646
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Which was created by the Hungarian government by canceling all trains to Austria, and "pilling them up" in railway stations for days. The "walk" on the motorway is a direct consequence of the hard try of the government to keep them...in Hungary . Though, now they have finally made the right decision .
So is it good or bad to prevent refugees from getting to Hungary? For all I know I have a feeling that Germany is little bit hypocritical towards Hungary (e.g. Building fence to prevent them from entering Hungary is bad and unhuman, while letting them go wherever they want - to leave Hungary - is bad too). I can see, between lines, the best solution would welcome all the migrants in Hungary and prevent them to pass to Germany.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 10:41 PM   #13647
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Some pictures from today from the Hungarian / Serbian border crossing:















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Old September 16th, 2015, 10:44 PM   #13648
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Does anyone have pictures from the last M5 exit? Are there congestions? Are there placed diversion signs?
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Old September 16th, 2015, 10:54 PM   #13649
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So is it good or bad to prevent refugees from getting to Hungary? For all I know I have a feeling that Germany is little bit hypocritical towards Hungary (e.g. Building fence to prevent them from entering Hungary is bad and unhuman, while letting them go wherever they want - to leave Hungary - is bad too). I can see, between lines, the best solution would welcome all the migrants in Hungary and prevent them to pass to Germany.
True, but these "refugees" don't want to stay in Hungary anyway, nor they wish to register as such there. One can say that keeping them by force in Hungary is inhumane too... Mostly when there are on their way for "pilgrimaging" towards Mecca, aka Germany . IMHO, Germany is not only being hypocritical here, but also acts irresponsibly and cowardly on that one.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 10:59 PM   #13650
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True, but don't say "Germany". It's not whole Germany. Just Angie and some others.....
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Old September 16th, 2015, 11:14 PM   #13651
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How is it they these men can fight the Hungarian police but can't fight for their own country
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Is "desperate refugee" a euphemism for aggressive, lawless continent invaders?
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Old September 16th, 2015, 11:21 PM   #13652
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At least they left the Kalashnikovs back in their respective countries .
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Old September 16th, 2015, 11:23 PM   #13653
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At least they left the Kalashnikovs back in their respective countries .
It's only a matter of time before they find out you can buy AK-47 for like 10$ in the Balkans.
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Old September 16th, 2015, 11:24 PM   #13654
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Is "desperate refugee" a euphemism for aggressive, lawless continent invaders?
I can understand them. After months on the run...

Most of them are abroad for many years now. Been in a refugee camp in Turkey or Libanon. They have no hope to get back in their own country. They are without prospects. Finally, they saw a chance getting a future. Back to life. Everyone told them about "golden Europe". Paradise. They risked their lifes but now.... There's a fence. The fence wasn't their a couple of days ago. But now, there's a fence. Hell! I want to cross the border. Merkel said "refugees welcome". I saw it on a youtube video. We are welcomed but now... A fence! Damn! Break down this wall!
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Old September 16th, 2015, 11:26 PM   #13655
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It's only a matter of time before they find out you can buy AK-47 for like 10$ in the Balkans.
Tell me where I buy dozen of them directly .
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Everyone - please, moderate yourselves. Posting pictures from the border crossings is fine and well, reporting what's happening is fine and well - but let's not discuss the politics here. Let's stick to the facts - what is closed, where the checks are and how everything is operating. Please?

If this thread gets locked, there isn't really anywhere else online to discuss the current state of affairs. So - I'm begging you, don't discuss the people here.
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Okay. So what is the situation at Hungarian motorways? Blocade of E75 should lead to chaos, shouldn't it?
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A mod started it...........
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Well...let's stay on international borders topic .

Already, after the current on-going refugee crisis in Hungary, some states have decided to take firm acts in order to protect their borders from "massive influx of undesired migrants":
Swiss army have started yesterday exercise maneuvers simulating an ethnical and economical conflict coming from Northern Europe, criminality and terrorism exploding along massive migration outgoing, extending towards Switzerland . 5'000 military will be mobilized for this exercise called "Conex15" and will last until 25th September. The maneuvers are due to test the aptitude of the army to cooperate with different services and to control the borders, protect civilians, transportation network, key infrastructure, hospitals, industries, power plants, etc. and to fight and repeal fictive "hordes of barbarians and criminals" as well as impeaching looters and saboteurs.

Link (in German): http://www.he.admin.ch/internet/heer...ialregion.html

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Old September 17th, 2015, 12:56 AM   #13660
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LOL, Swiss were freaking out about immigration because 100 Germans came, imagine if they get this
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