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Old September 17th, 2015, 01:11 AM   #13661
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Okay. So what is the situation at Hungarian motorways? Blocade of E75 should lead to chaos, shouldn't it?
Looks like it. I found one news report suggesting a 4km jam at Kelebia-Tompa - which is the only international crossing open at the minute. Probably the only good thing is that the summer is over, so Kelebia-Tompa should manage to take the load.
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Old September 17th, 2015, 01:34 AM   #13662
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LOL, Swiss were freaking out about immigration because 100 Germans came, imagine if they get this
You mean "illegals" that are caught on a normal day at the borders .
You know there are more than 300'000 "only" borderers from neighboring countries which come to work to Switzerland and return home each working day... Above all, only last year we have received more "refugees" with asylum applications than Poland, Slovenia, Croatia, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Slovakia and Czech Republic altogether (Link: http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statist...9_YB15_III.png) even though we did not take part in any international conflict, nor we colonized any of them . Plus, there are tens of thousands vehicles each day on transit traffic, mostly on North-South axis. The last "hordes" I remember came from the Balkans in the late 1990's, when more than 100'000 "asylum seekers" were accepted.
Quite far away from the frighting hundred Germans "invasion" .


French-Swiss border after a socialist government took power in France .

More seriously, an international border in CH:

French-Swiss border in Bardonnex (GE).
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Old September 17th, 2015, 03:07 AM   #13663
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You know there are more than 300'000 "only" borderers from neighboring countries which come to work to Switzerland and return home each working day...
My last company had an office in Geneva but whenever we went over we had to stay in France (Geneva hotel prices are like WOW). So one day I arrived back at the border at the end of the Geneva tram and there were no French taxis.

The Swiss border dudes waved me on and I came back 15 minutes later and asked them *in French* where the usual French taxis were.

"They are on strike" grinned the Swiss.

"Mais Merde"

"C'est Normalle" grinned the Swiss.

I walked straight uphill for around 30 minutes to get to my hotel. It was fcking cold.
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Old September 18th, 2015, 01:33 PM   #13664
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Romania has no chance of Schengen accession in the near future - perhaps air borders, but road borders opening are a long, long way away.

There won't be any impact on traffic because people should only be crossing at approved crossings anyway, and I don't think there are any places where unofficial crossings are tolerated by vehicular traffic. Schengen also doesn't stop Hungary from having fences along the border - the only obligation from Schengen is that physical controls are stopped at border crossings. If they want to have a huge fence along most of the border, then they can.

For instance, Poland and the Czech Republic don't allow people to freely cross the border in the Karkonosze National Park, and I'm pretty sure most of Tatry is off-limits for off-trail crossing as well.

Having said this, I'm pretty sure it's just a reminder to Romania to control the border properly and there won't be any need for such things.
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How many Schengen members have left "walls and fences" between them along most of their border so far?
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Old September 18th, 2015, 03:37 PM   #13665
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I am not sure how to post video from facebook, but this is Croatian response to illegal immigrants. After being flooded with 15000 immigrants in 2 days, now there is no control of identity, no control of who is refugee, who economic migrant and who a terrorist. Only thousands of men running by the border control https://www.facebook.com/priznajem.H...4/?pnref=story

Media show picures of women and children, but there is 15% of them, tops. And all the people ar treated as refugees, while in fact no one knows who they are because they burned their documents.

As a Croatian, I admire Hungarians and their leaders.
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Old September 18th, 2015, 04:07 PM   #13666
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That's exactly why other countries introduced border controls. It's not possible to register them and check if they are refugees, migrants or terrorists. Just too much people.

I read Slovenia has reinforced border controls and Croatia carries (or plans to transport) them to the Hungarian border....
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Old September 18th, 2015, 04:36 PM   #13667
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Croatia-Slovenia border in inhabited area at Obrežje/Bregana under "attack" by refugees:
https://twitter.com/ChristianFraser/...50627533762560
https://twitter.com/inglesi/status/644825610792124416
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Old September 18th, 2015, 04:39 PM   #13668
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Forget about Slovenian border control. That won't stop them.

I saw on the news that the Syrian embassies Beirut and Amman have begun selling passports to people without papers. They feel it's the least they can do to people who have lost them. So de facto any Arab male can now travel to Germany and stay. Good move Assad!

Just what kind of jobs in Germany are these aggressive young men without knowledge of neither language or culture are supposed to fill. There must be a huge shortage of labor that I haven't heard about.

Two weeks ago Merkel couldn't have imagined that she would end up the fool and Orban the guy with the solution.

I'm afraid she still doesn't see it.
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Old September 18th, 2015, 06:49 PM   #13669
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Stop. This thread is about border crossings, not about how migrants can buy passports or what kind of jobs they might take. Please - I'm begging you.
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Old September 18th, 2015, 10:01 PM   #13670
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An other Spain-Portugal border, here near the Spanish city of Badajoz.















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Old September 18th, 2015, 10:11 PM   #13671
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Yes, Schengen lives !
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Old September 18th, 2015, 10:15 PM   #13672
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Yes, Schengen lives !
Yeah
But I have a question, I'm from Morocco and only 16 so i don't really know
Is the border marker the blue EU sign with the name of the country or it's a little before?
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Old September 18th, 2015, 10:18 PM   #13673
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supposed to be, but in reality always some distance before, maybe 500 mm or 5 m, usually there is some kind of border rock
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Old September 18th, 2015, 10:34 PM   #13674
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supposed to be, but in reality always some distance before, maybe 500 mm or 5 m, usually there is some kind of border rock
Oh Ok thanks, let's say that it's just the sign because they decided that , and there was nothing to distinguish there
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Old September 18th, 2015, 10:56 PM   #13675
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Hungary and Serbia will continue talks tomorrow so that Horgos can be reopened. There will be some joint force trying to keep order around the crossing to allow the regular flow.
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Old September 19th, 2015, 12:29 AM   #13676
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But I have a question, I'm from Morocco and only 16 so i don't really know
Is the border marker the blue EU sign with the name of the country or it's a little before?
The border marker in the portuguese/spanish border i think that never is on the actual border line, but a little after you pass the border.


In this particular border is the old whithe stone sign saying Portugal.



The portuguese/spanish border ir mark only with this old border marks (putted around 1930):

Source: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fronte...e:Marco198.jpg


The best way to see the actual line in any portuguese/spanish land border is to see the quality of the road and the sides of the road (the spanish ones are larger):


Source: http://historiasdaraia.blogspot.pt/2...1_archive.html
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Old September 19th, 2015, 05:07 PM   #13677
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Some weird stuff going on today in Croatia. According to the Croatian Automobile Club...

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In the outbound freight traffic there are delays at Bajakovo (the queue is 18 km long). At Bregana freight traffic is suspended in the outbound direction (the queue is 1 km long).
Why on earth is there an 18km jam to exit Croatia/enter Serbia? And why has freight traffic been suspended at Bregana?

I'm assuming that it's connected to the migrants, but an 18km freight queue is ridiculous.
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Old September 19th, 2015, 05:22 PM   #13678
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Has the P-E border ever changed, or is it the same since the reconquista?
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Old September 19th, 2015, 05:36 PM   #13679
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Some weird stuff going on today in Croatia. According to the Croatian Automobile Club...



Why on earth is there an 18km jam to exit Croatia/enter Serbia? And why has freight traffic been suspended at Bregana?

I'm assuming that it's connected to the migrants, but an 18km freight queue is ridiculous.
But, it's not uncommon to see such (and even bigger) traffic jams on the European motorway network , especially during bank holidays and vacations.
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Old September 19th, 2015, 05:39 PM   #13680
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Yes, Schengen lives !
And I think it will. I mean why should Hungary reintroduce border controls with Slovakia, or Portugal with Spain, or Estonia with Latvia, only because some German politicians are talking bullshit? If Schengen really falls, then its time to make dual agreements about border crossings to remain open.

Fixed border controls would be a real pain in the ass nowadays.
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