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Old September 25th, 2015, 04:14 AM   #13761
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2015-03-10 drive-lapse from Udon Thani to Vientiane via Nong Khai

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Thailand–Laos border crossing 16:28–19:18

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Old September 25th, 2015, 02:35 PM   #13762
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ok, but why nobody has balls to point on Arabic countries such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Jordan etc. to accept part of those migrants/refugees? they have shortly and openly said "no soup for you, come back one year" and the world is keeping its mouth shut. what is that? xenophobia? courage? oil-games?
Look what say in Kuwait : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZbCK95Zu_0
Kuwaiti Official: "We Should Never Allow Refugees in our Country" !!!
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Old September 26th, 2015, 12:20 AM   #13763
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"Muslim Brothers" .

I couldn't imagine what would happen if EU officials said that, especially the last sentence.
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Old September 26th, 2015, 02:03 PM   #13764
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Hungarians laid down barbed wire on the Slovenian border.





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Old September 26th, 2015, 03:45 PM   #13765
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These articles say the "fast-installation wire barrier" on the SLO border was "only an experiment" and that these were removed on Friday, hours after being installed:

http://www.krone.at/Welt/Ungarn_baut...n-Story-473690
http://www.origo.hu/itthon/percrolpe...01509261352410

I guess it's a preparation for the case a fast intervention should become necessary (migrant wave detour after a HR border closure).
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Old September 26th, 2015, 03:59 PM   #13766
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But migrants don't go from Slovenia to Hungary. Btw, Slovenia now controls its border with Hungary, so all traffic coming from M70 to A5 is diverted through the Pince rest area.
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Old September 26th, 2015, 05:23 PM   #13767
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But migrants don't go from Slovenia to Hungary. Btw, Slovenia now controls its border with Hungary, so all traffic coming from M70 to A5 is diverted through the Pince rest area.
Austria has an easy job closing it's border with Slovenia. And with some 5000 - 10 000 migrants per day, they could find their way trough Hungary.
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Old September 26th, 2015, 07:40 PM   #13768
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Does Austria has fences along its border with Slovenia?

Anyway, goodbye Schengen !
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Old September 26th, 2015, 08:36 PM   #13769
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The Dutch-German border at Zwartemeer / Schöninghsdorf in the 1980s.

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Old September 26th, 2015, 09:44 PM   #13770
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1980,s are coming back..Schengen is dead already!!
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Old September 26th, 2015, 10:03 PM   #13771
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I went for a walk today along a Swiss-German border in the forest. Probably crossed it back and forth a dozen times or more. Signs say that you are not supposed to be there at night, but during the day it's a normal hiking trail. So free movement of people is not dead just yet.
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Old September 26th, 2015, 10:18 PM   #13772
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On Hiking trails, as well as ski areas i.a., you already didn't had "systematical" id/passport/goods checks, nor there were fixed border posts on them, well before Schengen Area agreements (12th of December 2008) as for Switzerland.
I remember well going skiing between CH and France: only unannounced and random checks, and I never was controlled myself, as checks were even not so frequent.
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Old September 26th, 2015, 10:21 PM   #13773
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Sorry, I still don't understand why the Schengen Area thread was closed. The discussion just moved to this thread again . Why is this thread not closed for the same reason?

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Old September 27th, 2015, 12:49 AM   #13774
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Why do you want this thread to be closed? I was simply replying to Sunfuns about his pedestrian border controls in Switzerland, prior to Schengen Agreements.

By the way, in CH long before Schengen "adhesion" and previously to the Bilateral II Treaty with the EU of 2004, traffic crossing the border was already not "systematically" controlled, as only about 2-3% of vehicles passing were checked . That means we already had Schengen before Schengen (as for what matters us) .

FYI: Presently, goods, and by extension all traffic can be checked at the border and "flying patrols", because of import limitations.
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Old September 27th, 2015, 12:38 PM   #13775
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Did Switzerland in modern times (say 1970's onwards) ever really control their border systematically? It's always been my impression that on the land border, they were more or less operating controls according to risk rather than blanket checks.
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Why do you want this thread to be closed? I was simply replying to Sunfuns about his pedestrian border controls in Switzerland, prior to Schengen Agreements.
It's not about your last post. It's a general comment about most of the last posts (including posts from me). But it's a general problem in this thread.......
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Old September 27th, 2015, 01:35 PM   #13777
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Please put more photos and videos from border crossings!!!
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Old September 27th, 2015, 01:51 PM   #13778
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But it's a general problem in this thread.......
Yes, and it has been for a very long time, despite numerous threads elsewhere on SSC where one could discuss these issues. But if I close this thread, it will just spill over into the Roadside Rest Area - or worse, clog up the country threads.
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Old September 27th, 2015, 02:28 PM   #13779
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Yesterday I did a daytrip to Rijeka, Croatia.
At the I-SLO border at Pesek there was no police at all.
At the SLO-HR border at Pasjak controls were regular, no queues or chaos. Since Croatia joined EU in 2013, controls are performed only on the Slovenian side. We give IDs to the police officer, he quickly opened it and looked if photos matched with our faces, gave them back and let us go. It took maybe 20 seconds.
On the way back, we handed our IDs to the officer, but he gave them back to us without even looking at them! I don't think that is legal.
Entering Italy from Slovenia, we didn't see any police again.
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Old September 27th, 2015, 02:48 PM   #13780
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On the way back, we handed our IDs to the officer, but he gave them back to us without even looking at them! I don't think that is legal.
At the BiH/HR border I didn't even give my ID card to the officer.
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