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Old October 25th, 2015, 11:59 AM   #13881
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This is a proposes to change from causeway with swing bridge at Malaysia side. The causeway is remain at Singapore side.



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Old October 25th, 2015, 06:29 PM   #13882
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Around 1,500 Syrian refugees have cycled through Russia into Northern Norway in recent months.
- We are now accepting about 50-70 Syrians a day, said Police Chief Stein Hansen told Sky News.
In August, 133 Syrians took off to Norway through the Russian tundra, but rumors of the route have spread. The cause of the refugees crossing the border with bikes is that it is forbidden to cross the border on foot or by taxi.

Interesting that they bought the bicycles because it's illegal to cross the border by foot or by taxi, they're smart and well informed those syrians.

Any other borders in the world you cant pass by foot or taxi ?
No foot, no taxi, but bicycle OK ?

You know... if they are so smart, informed, and frankly have enough determination to ride a bicycle through Russian tundra you should let them stay, they are probably the best kind of people to have in a country
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Old October 25th, 2015, 06:37 PM   #13883
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I saw a German TV report a couple of weeks ago. They take a plane from Moscow to Murmask. They spend the night in an expensive hotel, buy a bicycle and just ride the bike for crossing the border. They throw it away just behind the border crossing. Russia forbid crossing the border by foot. In addition, they cannot take a taxi because the driver would be responsible for the passengers who have no visa.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 10:29 PM   #13884
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How were they able to travel by plane without visa?
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Old October 25th, 2015, 10:49 PM   #13885
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Perhaps because it's a domestic flight? (Moskva ->Murmansk)
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Old October 25th, 2015, 10:51 PM   #13886
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How were they able to travel by plane without visa?
According to the german reportage they lived and studied for 3 years in Russia, so they probably have student visas.
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Old October 25th, 2015, 11:30 PM   #13887
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In addition, they cannot take a taxi because the driver would be responsible for the passengers who have no visa.
Do taxi driver in Russia check visas of their foreign customers?
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Old October 26th, 2015, 12:24 AM   #13888
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Perhaps because it's a domestic flight? (Moskva ->Murmansk)
Honestly I am surprised in Russia they let "Arab" looking people on the flights without much paperwork hassle... even with bribes...
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Old October 26th, 2015, 12:27 AM   #13889
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This is a proposes to change from causeway with swing bridge at Malaysia side. The causeway is remain at Singapore side.



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this has already changed , and it's replaced with a less impressive bridge on the land side up to the MY CIQ.
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Old October 26th, 2015, 12:44 AM   #13890
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Israeli-Arab guy used a paraglider to cross into Syria proper from Golan Height (Syrian territory occupied by Israel since 1967), to join ISIS.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...hters-in-syria
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Old October 26th, 2015, 03:15 AM   #13891
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I saw a German TV report a couple of weeks ago. They take a plane from Moscow to Murmask. They spend the night in an expensive hotel, buy a bicycle and just ride the bike for crossing the border. They throw it away just behind the border crossing. Russia forbid crossing the border by foot. In addition, they cannot take a taxi because the driver would be responsible for the passengers who have no visa.
They have so much money to make all that "adventure" trip, but are not ambitious enough to settle in one of the dozens "welcoming" town on the thousands kilometres way "through". Welfare "appeal" is really much more attractive than I thought . In the meantime, EU economic crisis is still striking and hard...

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Honestly I am surprised in Russia they let "Arab" looking people on the flights without much paperwork hassle... even with bribes...
Russia is a multicultural country and muslims people are part of their country. Furthermore, many former Soviet republics were almost entirely muslim. By the way, current Russian project is to create an Eurasian "union" regrouping Europeans, Asians, Muslims, Budhists, etc...But, apparently many just prefer to go to the very generous "West"

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Old October 26th, 2015, 03:28 AM   #13892
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Russia is a multicultural country and muslims people are part of their country. Furthermore, many former Soviet republics were almost entirely muslim. By the way, current Russian project is to create an Eurasian "union" regrouping Europeans, Asians, Muslims, Budhists, etc...But, apparently many just prefer to go to the very generous "West"
Yes but they also keep exploding (e.g. plane bombings in 2004)

But anyway, really, would you stay in Russia if you landed there?
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Old October 26th, 2015, 03:36 AM   #13893
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But anyway, really, would you stay in Russia if you landed there?
At least the can stay relatively safely there and are "welcomed" , not like in the Arabic "Muslim" Gulf countries. But, it's not their goals at all..."Easy way" is almost always chosen by them.
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Old October 26th, 2015, 04:09 AM   #13894
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It's a lot of work emigrating to another country, starting a new life, etc etc
If you are going to do it, might as well go to a proper country

I mean they need to survive firstly (so go a place without beards chasing them) but need to live also...
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Old October 26th, 2015, 10:00 AM   #13895
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Even if Russia is a multicultural country, part of the public opinion is xenofobic towards non-white people, probably more than in Europe or the USA. There are many Russian citizens of Muslim religion, mostly in Chechnya, Dagestan and Tatarstan but their integration hasn't always being peaceful, remember the war against Chechen separatists / terrorists.
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Old October 26th, 2015, 12:14 PM   #13896
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Borders are not anymore existing in Europe... I don't know why somebody needs passport,and other are coming so easy without any documents,name,surname,age??Where is it possible in the world?? This is already nonsense!!! http://www.digitalnewsworld.com/news...-midnight.html 15.000 people in one day?? Is this normal?? It means 450.000 people in one month!!!
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Old October 26th, 2015, 09:33 PM   #13897
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According to the german reportage they lived and studied for 3 years in Russia, so they probably have student visas.
They have student visas - even elder persons. It's reported that it's not easy for Syrians to get a Russian visa - you need "connections". Most of them seem to be supporters of Assad.

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Do taxi driver in Russia check visas of their foreign customers?
I think they could be fined by the custom officials. The immigrants can ask for asylum if they cross the border "alone" only.

The hotel room in Murmask costs 200 € per night. They take a taxi to Nikel where they buy the bicycles. The dealer said that they pay at any costs, even 300 €. They just ride the bike for 100m b/n the Russian and the Norwegian border guard.
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Old October 26th, 2015, 10:42 PM   #13898
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What I've never understood - what's with the ex-USSR countries obsession with not permitting people to walk across the border? It was never an issue post-1989 in other ex-Warsaw Pact countries, and I've even walked across at Horgos/Roszke before.
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Old October 26th, 2015, 11:22 PM   #13899
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What I've never understood - what's with the ex-USSR countries obsession with not permitting people to walk across the border?
You can't walk across the border, but bicycles are ok, what about skateboard, rollerskates, segway, kickscooter ?

I think I saw people walking across the borderpoint Ivangorod-Narva, there was a certain passage for pedestrians there when I last visited in 1998.
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You can't walk across the border, but bicycles are ok, what about skateboard, rollerskates, segway, kickscooter ?

I think I saw people walking across the borderpoint Ivangorod-Narva, there was a certain passage for pedestrians there when I last visited in 1998.
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