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Old March 1st, 2017, 12:08 AM   #15001
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Indeed but what about air borders ? Who owns the space above the land?
AFAIK the same than international waters, aren't they?

In addition, in case of straight or so, national waters can be more narrow
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Old March 1st, 2017, 12:16 AM   #15002
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AFAIK the same than international waters, aren't they?
Basically said yes, though it depends on what country when 'airspace' (planes and such) ends and space starts.
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Old March 6th, 2017, 06:52 PM   #15003
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Old March 6th, 2017, 09:15 PM   #15004
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no booths?
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Old March 6th, 2017, 11:01 PM   #15005
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Maybe there are behind and there is only one set of booths, not separate ones for each country.
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Old March 6th, 2017, 11:47 PM   #15006
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Serbia border
But with what country?
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Old March 7th, 2017, 12:13 AM   #15007
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New border crossing France - Luxemburg in Belval:

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Old March 7th, 2017, 01:16 AM   #15008
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But with what country?
With Romania. This is border crossing on Đerdap II power station on the Danube.
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Old March 7th, 2017, 12:14 PM   #15009
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Rome : Italy-Vatican City:

From Vatican City looking towards Italy: The fence is on the border




And looking from Italy to Vatican City
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Old March 7th, 2017, 12:58 PM   #15010
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With Romania. This is border crossing on Đerdap II power station on the Danube.


There is an amazing signpost for bikes at one of the SRB-RO borders. Its very funny telling that the municipality is sad that one is leaving Serbia.. there is a smiley on the post as well lol.
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Old March 8th, 2017, 09:23 AM   #15011
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Old March 8th, 2017, 07:03 PM   #15012
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What about crossing border at Vatican city?

Are they diplomatic problems if Italian police is going to arrest someone and he enters Vatican or he's returned to Italy asap?
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Old March 8th, 2017, 07:27 PM   #15013
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What about crossing border at Vatican city?

Are they diplomatic problems if Italian police is going to arrest someone and he enters Vatican or he's returned to Italy asap?
Italian police can only patrol Saint Peter Square, within Vatitican. Pedestrians can enter and exit the square freely from the Italian side (Piazza Pio XII - Via della Conciliazione). Access to the rest of Vatican territory is controlled.
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Old March 13th, 2017, 09:01 PM   #15016
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I read once that in Baarle, technicians had to deliberate which country belonged the exact point to deliver to one or another police....
In the United States where there are multiple municipalities, counties, states and Indian tribes, police officers from different jurisdictions will often argue that a crime or car crash took place iacross the line from their land and will use a measuring wheel to prove it didn't happen in their own jurisdiction. Sometimes, if a crime or crash takes place in an intersection with a tripoint where three or more jurisdictions meet and all the police officers refuse to acknowledge that the incident took place in their land, they will end up releasing the suspect.

On the other hand, some municipal officers will set up speed traps or do traffic stops outside their jurisdiction to collect revenue which leads to litigation in court, soecially, when it leads to illegal searches. other times, they will illegally stop drivers crossing into their cities for offenses committed while still in the adjacent city.
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Sometimes, if a crime or crash takes place in an intersection with a tripoint where three or more jurisdictions meet and all the police officers refuse to acknowledge that the incident took place in their land, they will end up releasing the suspect.
Why would they want to get rid of the suspect instead of all of them wanting to fine him and arguing, which one should do it?
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Why would they want to get rid of the suspect instead of all of them wanting to fine him and arguing, which one should do it?
Off topic, but let me hint what the answer might be:
Because 'Murica. Money is more important than laws. The USA employs a third fewer cops per capita than Germany, despite having two to five times the crime rate, depending on kind of crime and methodology.
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Old March 14th, 2017, 12:46 AM   #15019
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In the United States where there are multiple municipalities, counties, states and Indian tribes, police officers from different jurisdictions will often argue that a crime or car crash took place iacross the line from their land and will use a measuring wheel to prove it didn't happen in their own jurisdiction. Sometimes, if a crime or crash takes place in an intersection with a tripoint where three or more jurisdictions meet and all the police officers refuse to acknowledge that the incident took place in their land, they will end up releasing the suspect.

On the other hand, some municipal officers will set up speed traps or do traffic stops outside their jurisdiction to collect revenue which leads to litigation in court, soecially, when it leads to illegal searches. other times, they will illegally stop drivers crossing into their cities for offenses committed while still in the adjacent city.


off-topic... in Spain it happens too. Local officers for streets, traffic police for roads. If a road crosses a town, any fine in the main road is only for traffic police and never for local police. Should you turn to any street, it is "local police territory".

But they must point exact place of infraction. If you are out of their jurisction, you can claim and avoid fine (and it is the most common case of avoided fines)
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Off topic, but let me hint what the answer might be:
Because 'Murica. Money is more important than laws. The USA employs a third fewer cops per capita than Germany, despite having two to five times the crime rate, depending on kind of crime and methodology.
But it's still illogical.

Fining the suspect = money.
Not fining the suspect = no money.

So why should them want to get rid of him and pass him to the police of another state/municipality/however it's divided there instead of doing it by themselves and getting the money from the fine (and maybe some bonuses) for themselves?

Unless they have to jail him instead of just giving a fine - then it starts to make sense since keeping him in jail costs money.
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