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Old April 3rd, 2017, 01:38 PM   #15141
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Does Spain grant citizenship to anyone born on Spanish territory?
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 03:08 PM   #15142
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AFAIK yes, why?

In this case is French citizens who born abroad... and they will be French providing they will be recorded in the administration located for that area. This is, not any council or so in the surroundings but consulate in Barcelona
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 03:47 PM   #15143
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I was just wondering if they did. I know that France and most other EU states do not grant citizenship unless one of the parents is already a citizen or long term legal resident.
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 04:08 PM   #15144
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I was just wondering if they did. I know that France and most other EU states do not grant citizenship unless one of the parents is already a citizen or long term legal resident.
Sorry for misunderstanding... I answered conversely. No citizenship for foreign people who are born in Spain.

On the other hand, hospital urgencies and birth cares are given even if you are in illegal situation or you do not have right for them. They first offer them and later ask for papers and nothing happens if you do not have health care papers.

Moroccan citizens can cross border to Ceuta and Melilla and stay for a day and back home (and return tomorrow and so on...). That's why so many people are born there. Free and hospitals aren't big but give same services as any other one in mainland. As usual, two hospital days for a normal birth, five if caesarea is needed. Doctor, nurse and so on free and guess why you ask for main given names in those hospitals and they are Arabic ones.

But of course... they do not have Spanish citizenship even they were born in Spain (really, you will see a lot of strongly pregnant women in those cities, waiting for time for born)
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 06:21 PM   #15145
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I've found something very interesting - it's an article from the acclaimed Vreme from Serbia in 1991, talking about the introduction of border controls between Slovenia and Croatia. I remember we were talking about it before on here, and no-one knew for certain when the controls were introduced.

Well - the answer - 8th October 1991.

http://www2.scc.rutgers.edu/serbiandigest/8/t8-6.htm
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 06:37 PM   #15146
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I've found something very interesting - it's an article from the acclaimed Vreme from Serbia in 1991, talking about the introduction of border controls between Slovenia and Croatia. I remember we were talking about it before on here, and no-one knew for certain when the controls were introduced.



Well - the answer - 8th October 1991.



http://www2.scc.rutgers.edu/serbiandigest/8/t8-6.htm


Yes i asked for it once. Thanks for sharing pal. Its quite late though since independence declaration in summer. Just 1 month before Vukovar fell.
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 06:48 PM   #15147
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I've found something very interesting - it's an article from the acclaimed Vreme from Serbia in 1991, talking about the introduction of border controls between Slovenia and Croatia. I remember we were talking about it before on here, and no-one knew for certain when the controls were introduced.

Well - the answer - 8th October 1991.

http://www2.scc.rutgers.edu/serbiandigest/8/t8-6.htm
The state army had the control over the borders, out of which they slowly withdrew and the local government started to implement its own control. That happened in my country also, along the border with Serbia (including Kosovo). But just after the army peacefully withdraw, the tanks departed to Bosnia.
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 08:50 PM   #15148
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Yes i asked for it once. Thanks for sharing pal. Its quite late though since independence declaration in summer. Just 1 month before Vukovar fell.
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The Croatian referendum on independence was held in May 1991, with 93% of voters supporting the independence. On 25 June the Croatian parliament(Croatian: Sabor) proclaimed the Croatian independence. Seven days later, on 7 July, Croatia as well as Slovenia signed the Brioni Declaration in which the two countries agreed to suspend all declarations and acts passed by the Croatian and Slovenian parliaments related to those states' secession from Yugoslavia for a period of three months. During that time the Croatian War of Independence started.

On 8 October, the Sabor decided to end relations with Yugoslavia, in the Decision on the termination of the state and legal ties with other republics and provinces of Yugoslavia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indepe..._Day_(Croatia)
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 09:46 PM   #15149
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Thank you Alex, it makes perfect sense that Slovenia and Croatia would have started to build border crossings on that day.

So - now the next challenge is to find pictures of these early border crossings between Croatia and Slovenia. Finding pictures of the borders with Austria and Italy is easy, but I'm struggling to find anything from the early 1990's between Slovenia and Croatia.

Any chance that anyone speaking a local language can look for pictures too?
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 10:03 PM   #15150
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I found this pic. Dates from the summer of 1991.
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Old April 3rd, 2017, 10:34 PM   #15151
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I think it's the border with Italy at Pesek, near Trieste.
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Old April 4th, 2017, 01:30 AM   #15152
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This should be near SLO-HR border in June 1991, 1 km from Bregana:



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Old April 4th, 2017, 02:17 AM   #15153
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Old April 4th, 2017, 02:18 AM   #15154
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You should be fine. France is not an external EU country. Anyway, the extra control is now that you will be scanned in many databases and that can take some time.
what is an external EU country?
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Old April 4th, 2017, 10:03 AM   #15155
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what is an external EU country?
I'm guessing he means an EU or Schengen country that borders a non-EU / non-Schengen country.
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I'm guessing he means an EU or Schengen country that borders a non-EU / non-Schengen country.
you took the words right out of my mouth, yes. However I found out that its actually not just external EU countries like for instance Hungary-Serbia but also external Schengen countries. This means the Slovenia-Croatia border will also be regulated by this new act.
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you took the words right out of my mouth, yes. However I found out that its actually not just external EU countries like for instance Hungary-Serbia but also external Schengen countries. This means the Slovenia-Croatia border will also be regulated by this new act.
In theory, at least. In practice, there's no way they're going to scan and check every document at crossings like Macelj or Rupa in summer. It also doesn't seem likely that they'll scan every document at small crossings in towns, such as my favourite Rogatec/Hum na Sutli - where currently anyone with local plates and ID cards is waved through.

I suspect the rules will only rigorously be applied on external EU borders.
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In theory, at least. In practice, there's no way they're going to scan and check every document at crossings like Macelj or Rupa in summer. It also doesn't seem likely that they'll scan every document at small crossings in towns, such as my favourite Rogatec/Hum na Sutli - where currently anyone with local plates and ID cards is waved through.

I suspect the rules will only rigorously be applied on external EU borders.
Lets hope but people will still get sun-baked. Just ask them one by one at the Spain-Gibraltar border.
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I think it's the border with Italy at Pesek, near Trieste.
No. It has no security booths.
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I've found something very interesting - it's an article from the acclaimed Vreme from Serbia in 1991, talking about the introduction of border controls between Slovenia and Croatia. I remember we were talking about it before on here, and no-one knew for certain when the controls were introduced.

Well - the answer - 8th October 1991.

http://www2.scc.rutgers.edu/serbiandigest/8/t8-6.htm
This is not surprising since that's when moratorium on independence activities ended.

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No. It has no security booths.
It does, but they aren't on the photo. As italystf said, it's the Italian border between Trieste and Rijeka. This was the same place:


http://www.red-alliance.net/forum/in...?topic=24417.0
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