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Old April 30th, 2017, 11:47 AM   #15261
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While it's merely semantics - much like "Polish concentration camps" (they were, of course, German) - it needs to be cleared up - Montenegro couldn't have separated "from" Serbia since it was never part of it. Instead, Montenegro seperated from the Union of Serbia & Montenegro, mutually agreed and perfectly legal
I was not referring to the independence of Montenegro but to the introduction of Deutsche Mark as currency in Montenegro in 1999. With this step, a economic border (aka custom controls) was established at the border with Serbia. This is why I wrote that Montenegro separated from Serbia. That was not correct, I should have wrote "Montenegro moved apart from Serbia".
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Old April 30th, 2017, 04:16 PM   #15262
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Entering Austria at Meiningen, coming from Oberrüti (CH) - A13, exit no. 5



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Old May 1st, 2017, 12:20 AM   #15263
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A photo of the famous Nova Gorica railway station (seen from Gorizia, Italy), during Yugoslavia era. The red star on the top is now inside the museum.



On a semi-related note, today I drove for the first time across the extraterritorial 'Osimo road', during my way to Monte Sabotino, a little mountain near Gorizia relevant for WWI memories (there is a little militaria museum and several trenches and bunkers dug by soldiers) and for the beautiful view from the top (above Gorizia, Nova Gorica, the Isonzo/Soca valley and Sv. Gora/Monte Santo), that is located across the I-SLO border, but it's accessible by car only from the SLO side.
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Old May 1st, 2017, 12:25 AM   #15264
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In a low developed countries its forbidden to take photos at the borders. There was a case when a guy took photos at the border between Kosovo-Serbia and he was detained.
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Old May 1st, 2017, 12:59 AM   #15265
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I was in Cyprus this week and here are a few photos I made on the border between the Republic of Cyprus (the Greek part) and the so-called Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.








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Old May 1st, 2017, 01:25 AM   #15266
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Old May 1st, 2017, 01:30 AM   #15267
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I love how you took photos of sign "don't take photos!"
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Old May 1st, 2017, 01:51 AM   #15268
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That photo was actually taken in Famagusta, but those signs are all over Northern Cyprus. I would say around 25–30% of Northern Cyprus is closed for civilians. Turkish army is all over the place.
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Old May 1st, 2017, 06:54 AM   #15269
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Old May 1st, 2017, 07:23 AM   #15270
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no entry, but zona 30
Vespa on the sidewalk?
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I would say around 25–30% of Northern Cyprus is closed for civilians. Turkish army is all over the place.

What are they doing the entire day? The war is over, nobody is attacking them, people are living in relative peace and the border is open and easy to pass (so I heard).
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no entry, but zona 30
Vespa on the sidewalk?
this photo was taken a year ago during construction works of that roundabout.
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Old May 1st, 2017, 02:24 PM   #15273
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What are they doing the entire day? The war is over, nobody is attacking them, people are living in relative peace and the border is open and easy to pass (so I heard).
They exercise their sovereignty over northern Cyprus.
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Old May 1st, 2017, 02:41 PM   #15274
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They exercise their sovereignty over northern Cyprus.
very interesting. What kind of border is it ? Do you need a passport and do locals need that as well ? Are there any customs control ? What is the difference between passing the border before and after 2008 where rules were facilitated. Which part is the most developed and modern ? thnx man.
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In a low developed countries its forbidden to take photos at the borders. There was a case when a guy took photos at the border between Kosovo-Serbia and he was detained.
And is it allowed in well-developed countries, except for the cases where the border is open? Like USA-Mexico? I think for it to be forbidden to take photos at the border is quite an ordinary thing. They may thing you are a spy or something like that.

I was crossing the Hungary-Croatia border by train with a friend. He took a photo of a border guard (soldier, if I remember well) with a big gun over a window, just because of it's interesting. The guard entered the train and told him to delete it.

Nowadays it's not difficult to take photo without being noticed so this is kind of a dead law.

An interesting case is the airport in Chania, Crete. It's a military area (and theoretically a military airport), so it's forbidden to photo, but it's massively used by tourist passenger planes for lack of other airports in the neighborhood (there is one more on the island, in Heraklion, if I remember well, but it's probably too little to satisfy the needs). So even though it's forbidden to photograph it, it's so easy to break this rule (by just taking a photo from a plane taking off, or even landing, nobody will be able to identify you through a window of the plane) that I don't think anyone cares.
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What are they doing the entire day? The war is over, nobody is attacking them, people are living in relative peace and the border is open and easy to pass (so I heard).
There is a relative peace because the armies of both sides are still there.

If one leaves, the other probably takes over. Neither one wants that.
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And is it allowed in well-developed countries, except for the cases where the border is open? Like USA-Mexico? I think for it to be forbidden to take photos at the border is quite an ordinary thing. They may thing you are a spy or something like that.

I was crossing the Hungary-Croatia border by train with a friend. He took a photo of a border guard (soldier, if I remember well) with a big gun over a window, just because of it's interesting. The guard entered the train and told him to delete it.

Nowadays it's not difficult to take photo without being noticed so this is kind of a dead law.

An interesting case is the airport in Chania, Crete. It's a military area (and theoretically a military airport), so it's forbidden to photo, but it's massively used by tourist passenger planes for lack of other airports in the neighborhood (there is one more on the island, in Heraklion, if I remember well, but it's probably too little to satisfy the needs). So even though it's forbidden to photograph it, it's so easy to break this rule (by just taking a photo from a plane taking off, or even landing, nobody will be able to identify you through a window of the plane) that I don't think anyone cares.
No its not true. Those are obviously non conflict areas where the rules are not applied at all. For example Serbia does not recognize the border with Kosovo, and there are ongoing tensions. If you try to provoke something at the border even being a tourist, you can end in the news or maybe in imprisonment.
Also in the Balkan states you can regularly see army doing checks at the border crossings, specially at night, instead or with the custom officials.
I have crossed several times and they came to me with automatic guns to check my car. But they do this as a routine.
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very interesting. What kind of border is it ? Do you need a passport and do locals need that as well ? Are there any customs control ? What is the difference between passing the border before and after 2008 where rules were facilitated. Which part is the most developed and modern ? thnx man.
Yes, you need a passport for Northern Cyprus, although according to their foreign ministry ID is enough for citizens of the EU and Turkey. There is customs control as well, although I wasn't asked anything. The Greek part is much more developed, but there are highly developed places in the Turkish part as well, particularly Kyrenia with 100 hotels. What happened in 2008?
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Yes, you need a passport for Northern Cyprus, although according to their foreign ministry ID is enough for citizens of the EU and Turkey. There is customs control as well, although I wasn't asked anything. The Greek part is much more developed, but there are highly developed places in the Turkish part as well, particularly Kyrenia with 100 hotels. What happened in 2008?
Not 2008 but 2003. The border was opened, allowing people from both sides of the island to visit the other side for the first time after 29 years of full closure.
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