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Old September 24th, 2017, 07:06 PM   #15901
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WOW. That was very nice tour you made. From landmines to socialist landmarks
And I've never heard of the abandoned motorway.
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Old September 24th, 2017, 09:42 PM   #15902
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Here are some pictures I took today at one of the world's [url=https://www.google.be/maps/@51.4392469,4.9286219,14.23z]...

Here is the town centre. We are still in Belgium, but if you pass the first building on the right side of the street, then you'll be in the Netherlands:

Looks pretty busy. Do people come there just to experience this strangeness (or legal pot)?
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Old September 24th, 2017, 09:46 PM   #15903
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Imagine if they were still using two currencies.
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Old September 24th, 2017, 09:55 PM   #15904
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Why is it forbidden to take pics?
The last time I went to Canada, I took a smartphone pic or two while I was waiting, just to post on Facebook or whatever. (I was several cars back.) The guy at the booth had me pull aside into the office for further questioning. It was just along the lines of "who are you meeting?" "what are you doing here?" that sort of thing, and they let me go after a few minutes, but it's the only time that's happened to me and I've wondered since whether it was because of the pics. (Although they didn't actually say so, and they didn't answer when I asked - non-confrontationally "I'm just curious; this is the only time this has ever happened to me..." - why I'd been pulled over.

By the way, the pics in question are on a phone that crashed about a month ago. So I can't post them here.
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Old September 24th, 2017, 09:57 PM   #15905
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There are no check points at the Franco-Monegasque border since Monaco is a Schengen Area member (actually it is considered as part of France under the Schengen agreements), so, no, you don't have to provide papers, etc....
In addition to this: the port of Monaco actually is an outer border of the Schengen area, and there are border controls there, carried out by French authorities
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Old September 24th, 2017, 10:21 PM   #15906
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In addition to this: the port of Monaco actually is an outer border of the Schengen area, and there are border controls there, carried out by French authorities
The Monaco being basically a French special territory is quite evident. There is a quite long list of bilateral treaties to set up things:

http://en.gouv.mc/Policy-Practice/Mo...es-with-France
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Old September 24th, 2017, 10:52 PM   #15907
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Imagine if they were still using two currencies.
Until 2002 they used two different currencies.

From Luxembourg it is known that 40km away in any direction, four different currencies!!
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Old September 24th, 2017, 10:57 PM   #15908
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In addition to this: the port of Monaco actually is an outer border of the Schengen area, and there are border controls there, carried out by French authorities
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The Monaco being basically a French special territory is quite evident. There is a quite long list of bilateral treaties to set up things:

http://en.gouv.mc/Policy-Practice/Mo...es-with-France


Like in Liechtenstein where they do not have customs with Switzerland and border pass with Austria is kept by Swiss police (and four flags in the border: EU, Austria, Liechtenstein and Switzerland)



One hint about Monaco. Should they do not have a new prince, they will join France. This will not happen in Andorra.
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Old September 24th, 2017, 11:18 PM   #15909
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One hint about Monaco. Should they do not have a new prince, they will join France.
Actually this rule was abolished few years ago (under the Chirac presidency if I remember well), along with the rule which stated that their Prime Minister (aka "Ministre d'État") must be French (today he can be either Monegasque or French, but still has to be appointed with the approval of the French State though).
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Old September 24th, 2017, 11:37 PM   #15910
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Every few months some photos of either Baarle or Derby Line pop up here.
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In real life, electronic toll collection was first introduced in Bergen, Norway in 1986, and well into the 21th century many countries still struggle to implement it.

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Old September 24th, 2017, 11:52 PM   #15911
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Looks pretty busy. Do people come there just to experience this strangeness (or legal pot)?
To be honest, I couldn't see any tourist except for me, a young Polish couple and a group of 20-30 Dutch pensioners. And most probably a gang of bikers looking like they didn't belong (you can see their bikes in front of the Dutch town hall).
I could be wrong though, but I think the real reason why people went out to drink a beer was the first warm and sunny day after almost three weeks of rain, storms and low temperatures throughout most of Benelux.
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Old September 24th, 2017, 11:55 PM   #15912
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Every few months some photos of either Baarle or Derby Line pop up here.
I've been reasonably close to Baarle twice, but never actually gone to see it....
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Old September 25th, 2017, 01:23 AM   #15913
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same here

I haven't even gone into Derby Line despite passing the main motorway crossing probably a dozen times...
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Old September 25th, 2017, 01:23 PM   #15914
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Until 2002 they used two different currencies.

From Luxembourg it is known that 40km away in any direction, four different currencies!!
Three. Belgian and Luxembourgian franc were pegged 1 to 1, and if I remember correctly, both accepted in both countries.
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Old September 25th, 2017, 01:45 PM   #15915
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Actually this rule was abolished few years ago (under the Chirac presidency if I remember well), along with the rule which stated that their Prime Minister (aka "Ministre d'État") must be French (today he can be either Monegasque or French, but still has to be appointed with the approval of the French State though).
Yes and no. The treaty of 2002 states that only born members of Grimaldi may wear the crown, but Monaco can decide upon the order of succession. Thus, there is a wider choice than earlier.
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Old September 25th, 2017, 05:35 PM   #15916
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Three. Belgian and Luxembourgian franc were pegged 1 to 1, and if I remember correctly, both accepted in both countries.
I tried to spend a Luxembourg note in Brussels in 1985 (I'd passed through Luxembourg a few days earlier). It wasn't accepted.
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Old September 25th, 2017, 05:37 PM   #15917
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Yes and no. The treaty of 2002 states that only born members of Grimaldi may wear the crown, but Monaco can decide upon the order of succession. Thus, there is a wider choice than earlier.
Well, now that Albert's married and having kids, they're all right for a while, right? (But I believe even Princess Caroline's children, who aren't Grimaldis, strictly speaking, are in the line of succession.)
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Old September 25th, 2017, 07:51 PM   #15918
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The ferry Harwich - Hoek van Holland docks in Hoek van Holland, next to te train station (closed for now, it wil be a metro station with a line to Rotterdam) and the small city center of Hoek van Holland.
Hoek van Holland is part of the municipality of Rotterdam, technically speaking.

IJmuiden is its own municipality.
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Old September 25th, 2017, 09:28 PM   #15919
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Yes and no. The treaty of 2002 states that only born members of Grimaldi may wear the crown, but Monaco can decide upon the order of succession. Thus, there is a wider choice than earlier.
Well, more yes than no, since with this new rule/treaty Monaco will hardly be "short of" a potential new Prince, if I may say so .

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Well, now that Albert's married and having kids, they're all right for a while, right? (But I believe even Princess Caroline's children, who aren't Grimaldis, strictly speaking, are in the line of succession.)
Indeed! That's BTW what I mean in my sentence above.

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So, Monaco and Andorra are very different. If you enter Spain you can go to Monaco but not to Andorra without checks... Also as I've learnt sometimes they let you in without check. What about customs, how is regulated in the ports?
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