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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:38 PM   #15981
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Just one more off-topic (sorry...): "hypermarket" isn't really an English word, unless it's sort of spread to us from Continental Europe. I encountered "hypermarché" when I was learning French, as a word for places like Carrefour. A supermarket, to me, is a large grocery store, i.e., a large store whose main business is selling food. A place like Wal-Mart is a "discount store."
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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:46 PM   #15982
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Just one more off-topic (sorry...): "hypermarket" isn't really an English word, unless it's sort of spread to us from Continental Europe. I encountered "hypermarché" when I was learning French, as a word for places like Carrefour. A supermarket, to me, is a large grocery store, i.e., a large store whose main business is selling food. A place like Wal-Mart is a "discount store."
Almost all people I've met pronounce Carrefour in English accent Like (take) care 4 AFAIK it means "the intersection" in French
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Old September 27th, 2017, 07:52 PM   #15983
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New Bridge(s) going up between Detroit, USA and Windsor, Canada

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Old September 27th, 2017, 08:03 PM   #15984
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Almost all people I've met pronounce Carrefour in English accent Like (take) care 4 AFAIK it means "the intersection" in French
It does mean "intersection." Back in the 80s, by the way, they were making an attempt at moving into the U.S. market. There was one in Philadelphia. I don't know whether they're still around.
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Old September 27th, 2017, 08:04 PM   #15985
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New Bridge(s) going up between Detroit, USA and Windsor, Canada

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/brid...roit-1.4294977

Way more going on in that article than just progress on one bridge!
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Old September 27th, 2017, 08:15 PM   #15986
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Just one more off-topic (sorry...): "hypermarket" isn't really an English word, unless it's sort of spread to us from Continental Europe. I encountered "hypermarché" when I was learning French, as a word for places like Carrefour. A supermarket, to me, is a large grocery store, i.e., a large store whose main business is selling food. A place like Wal-Mart is a "discount store."
I know it isn't, that's why I explained how it works in a country with another local language.

Is - in proper English - a huge self-service branch store which sells mostly food, but also clothes, kitchen equipment, toys, car accessories and consumer electronics - called a discount store, or it refers only to those Lidl-sized ones (which, actually, sell mostly food + cosmetics and cleaning products, the offer of everything else is changed every week - although according to what you tell, it sounds more like supermarket)?

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I think it depends on the language of the country where the specific store is located.

In French it just means intersection. "The intersection" would be "le carrefour", "an intersection" - "un carrefour".

The way how it is pronounced in Poland is not far from the original French pronunciation, just another syllable is stressed. KAR-fur, while in French it is kar-FUR. Where "u" means, of course, the "u" sound like in "put" or "oo" from "poor". Or some people pronounce it as KER-fur. "care-foor" if spelled according to English pronunciation. But in Polish commercials it's pronounced KAR-fur, not KER-fur.
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Old September 27th, 2017, 08:47 PM   #15987
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There IS an English Wikipedia entry on "hypermarket," although it also recognizes that Americans don't use that word and say it originated* with Carrefour and in French.

To me, a "discount store" is a place that has the same types of merchandise as a department store, but a lower level of service and therefore lower prices. Food is not necessarily an important part of the business; they may not sell it at all. I think I'd call a store that sells mostly food a supermarket, no matter how big it is. I'm not familiar with Lidl. I've heard of it, and I think we have them, but I've never been to one. So I can't answer that....

Also researched Carrefour. They're not in the U.S. or Canada now and I can find no mention that they ever were. I know I remember one in Philadelphia.

*I think. It's a half-hour since I read it. :-)
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Old September 27th, 2017, 10:02 PM   #15988
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Because this thread is about borders and I will stay on the topic but I want to include one interesting thing regarding this talk
On some borders I have seen casinos and shops beside the classic 'tax free' shops that are still present in some borders. Now for example there are 2 big casinos when entering my country from Greece and that's because of the cost of living here which is damn lover than in Greece. You can sleep there and have some fun(?)
Do you have casinos on the borders in Europe?
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Old September 27th, 2017, 10:12 PM   #15989
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Do you have casinos on the borders in Europe?
Yes. What I remember seeing while driving there is:

Casino in Czech Republic, at the border with Austria

Casino in Slovenia, at the border with Austria

I am sure that there are also other examples, but I remember seeing these.
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Old September 27th, 2017, 11:38 PM   #15990
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New Bridge(s) going up between Detroit, USA and Windsor, Canada

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/brid...roit-1.4294977

Interesting, this is one of few border crossings between the USA and Canada with inverted orientation, i.e. the USA, which is usually southernmost, here are at North. Besides, I'm glad that the both countries are considering proposal for the new bridge and an all-expressway/motorway border crossing, nowadays you drive a few miles in Windsor on the common road, and the Ambassador Bridge is not divided, if I remember well.
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Old September 28th, 2017, 12:34 AM   #15991
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Do you have casinos on the borders in Europe?
Grand Casino Basel (Switzerland), just few meters away from France (and a couple of km away from Germany).

https://goo.gl/maps/mAXtA9BcEoR2
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Old September 28th, 2017, 12:59 AM   #15992
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More casinos:

https://www.google.mk/maps/@41.13601...2!8i6656?hl=en
https://www.google.mk/maps/@41.13957...2!8i6656?hl=en
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Old September 28th, 2017, 01:23 AM   #15993
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Not an international border but just have a glance between Mesquite (Nevada) and their neighbourhs???? in Arizona

https://www.google.es/maps/@36.81236.../data=!3m1!1e3

BTW, it is the only side of Nevada state with non-Pacific timezone
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Old September 28th, 2017, 07:27 AM   #15994
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International border crossings

I was driving from Utah to LA and had to spend the night somewhere, so I slept in Mesquite in the hotel of a casino. I had to do the hotel check-in inside the casino, at the same counter where they were giving away the casino winnings. This town looks like Las Vegas jr.

Tip: the Interstate in Arizona, just across the state border is amazing.
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Old September 28th, 2017, 11:32 AM   #15995
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Not a casino but "almost duty free shops". These kind of shops for goods which have different taxes in countries. In Spain there are someones boundaring with France

Portalet/Pourtalet pass... just after former booths... cross, buy and return!!

https://www.google.es/maps/@42.80577...2!8i6656?hl=es



Main St.James pilgrim path has one out of its border crossing here
(French douanes, just after corner, Spanish ones with the flag)
https://www.google.es/maps/@43.10872...2!8i6656?hl=es


There are shops... but look at this corner some km. before!!!!

Road is in France but absolutely all shops in the left, after river remain in Spain!!!. no need to go to nearest border pass. It is a periclave

https://www.google.es/maps/@43.11840...2!8i6656?hl=es



and there are a lot of ones more... just a shop an a petrol station near the border but here, not only a petrol station but a shopping centre in Spain but parking is inside France still. You park in France, you cross to the shopping centre and come back

https://www.google.es/maps/@43.29318...2!8i6656?hl=es


They are only a couple of samples... We could set 20 or more
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Old September 28th, 2017, 01:26 PM   #15996
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Yes. What I remember seeing while driving there is:

Casino in Czech Republic, at the border with Austria

Casino in Slovenia, at the border with Austria

I am sure that there are also other examples, but I remember seeing these.
https://www.google.be/maps/@50.34501...!3m1!1e3?hl=en

We have them too in Belgium, French people living just across the border massively come to Belgium to play in the casino's. Not sure if in France they are banned or harder to get into.

Another good example:
https://www.google.be/maps/@50.75008...2!8i6656?hl=en

This street is full of shops selling tabac, betting and casino's. Here also, French come to buy their tabac/alcohol and play in casino's.
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Since Italians (and even more Asians in Trieste) love casinos, but have very few of them in Italy, Nova Gorica in Slovenia is basically a gambling town, with Europe's largest casino. There's also a drive-in casino at the motorway border crossing.
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Old September 29th, 2017, 07:29 AM   #15998
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Oh, I forgot about Nova Gorica. I spent a night also there in a casino hotel. Italians were gambling below my hotel room all night.
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And their visit also includes a stop at the gas station.
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Now the thing most probably is: Not only that in some countries casinos are illegal but over the border you get 'different' treatment and possibly very low prices. That's why I asked if this scheme is working on other places. I know because in my country Greek people used to game not just to gamble but to go on dentists, doctors, get petrol just across the border
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