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Old October 13th, 2017, 06:27 PM   #16081
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I didn't find any pic of Mauritanian/Algerian borderline, but, I found this pic about the borderline between Algeria and Morocco:



https://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.97785:1499258187/image/jpeg.jpg?f=16x9&w=1024&$p$f$w=2589da4
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Old October 13th, 2017, 06:31 PM   #16082
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Mauritania and "Morocco" (Western Sahara):



https://sahara-overland.com/mauritania/
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Old October 13th, 2017, 07:19 PM   #16083
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These remote border locations don't have electricity. You can see on the light its solar. So very suspicious border to pass
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Old October 13th, 2017, 07:27 PM   #16084
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There are few kilometers of 'no-man's land' between Western Sahara (controlled by Morocco) and Mauritania. This area is disputed between the two countries and there is no real road across it, just a desert track.
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Old October 13th, 2017, 07:58 PM   #16085
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That is a very remote border crossing, especially from a Mauritanian point of view. The mentioned city Zouérat is over 800 kilometers away, which according to Google Earth, is entirely on unpaved 'roads' (mostly just tracks in the desert).
I don't have much more informations.

This is an idea... Maybe a new road bypassing the Western Sahara to link Tindouf in Algeria to Zouerate in Mauritania.

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Old October 13th, 2017, 08:16 PM   #16086
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I didn't find any pic of Mauritanian/Algerian borderline, but, I found this pic about the borderline between Algeria and Morocco:



https://www.thenational.ae/image/policy:1.97785:1499258187/image/jpeg.jpg?f=16x9&w=1024&$p$f$w=2589da4
Some other pics of the Algerian-Moroccan border.

Algerian side



Morocco on the left, Algeria on the right



Closed Akid Lotfi border checkpoint (moroccan side)



The border in Saïdia (moroccan side)

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Old October 14th, 2017, 01:03 AM   #16087
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Algerian side

Looks like they're ready to shoot any illegal trespassers not stopping at their orders.
(If we compare that to how Hungary was slammed by scores of dimwit EU politicians for simply erecting a fence ...)
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Old October 14th, 2017, 01:05 AM   #16088
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Looks like they're ready to shoot any illegal trespassers not stopping at their orders.
(If we compare that to how Hungary was slammed by scores of dimwit EU politicians for simply erecting a fence ...)
Not really, Algerian borderpolice has been caught time after time sending illegals to Morocco illegally to get rid of them. Both countries are building more and more walls and fences between each other. You have to remember the algerian regime has closed the borders since 94 and refuses to open them again with Morocco.
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Old October 14th, 2017, 02:17 AM   #16089
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What's that car?

For me, it looks a little bit of Lada 2107... And I know they ceased to be produced in Russia some years ago (in 2012), but then they were then still being manufactured somewhere in Africa, probably in Egypt... It's definitely one of the longest produced car models: from 1982.

But I don't think it's really it, I believe it's a western car.

We used to have Lada 2107, actually it's the first car in the family I remember - and I like it: it was spacious and comfortable. A big disadvantage was the high fuel consumption (most of the very few still used ones in Poland are converted to LPG). I remember some unusual solutions, like the ignition placed on the left under the steering wheel, where the key was put straight forward and not from the side, the headlights button placed practically on the floor, next to the gear lever, and an analog clock in the dashboard.
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Old October 14th, 2017, 02:35 AM   #16090
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it looks like a Mercedes W124 but a weird camera angle
Or maybe a W116...
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Old October 14th, 2017, 01:10 PM   #16091
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Looks like they're ready to shoot any illegal trespassers not stopping at their orders.
(If we compare that to how Hungary was slammed by scores of dimwit EU politicians for simply erecting a fence ...)
Algeria has built a wall and a trench in the northern part of the border in order to prevent drug trafficking from Morocco.
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Old October 14th, 2017, 02:02 PM   #16092
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it looks like a Mercedes W124 but a weird camera angle
Or maybe a W116...
Yes, it's some old Mercedes. Whatever modell
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Old October 14th, 2017, 04:15 PM   #16093
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On that picture you can also notice old socialist camping trailer. They were very popular as shelters during war time in the Balkan, because many of them were abandoned. This one looks too.
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Old October 14th, 2017, 09:38 PM   #16094
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I went to Gibraltar yesterday, and the border is a joke as always.

(on foot)

Exit from Spain: most people were walking through the side gate, not the automatic gates. The woman checking passports was barely interested, and half the time was doing something else while people walked by. Quite a few people walked by without even showing their passport, while everyone else just waved it at her.

Entry to Gibraltar: people were just walking by with their passports held up. Most people weren't checked, but they did check one family with kids.

Exit from Gibraltar: zero police presence or interest

Entry to Spain: Most people were walking through, but this time, they were using the actual passport control booth rather than the side gate at the automatic gates.

The only thing I noticed is that non-EU citizens were checked thoroughly by Spain, and a Chinese couple in front of me had their passports checked to ensure that they had a multiple-entry visa to Schengen. But - they didn't stamp their passports, and the guy on duty didn't have a stamp.

Customs checks were being carried out on entry to Spain, with several people pulled for bag checks. Smuggling is still going on, despite Gibraltar claiming otherwise - I've seen quite a few locals hiding packets of cigarettes on them.

(by car)

Exit from Spain: random scanning of passports/ID cards, including locals.

Entry to Gibraltar: random checks, but most people waved through. Customs not interested.

Exit from Gibraltar - random policeman in the exit lanes, but the barriers/cones they put up last year are already all broken and there was no sign of any random checks being made.

Entry to Spain - random ID checks, with all traffic funnelled into one lane through customs controls. The Spanish side hasn't really changed much since before the works there, and again, someone being stopped is holding up the traffic. They really should implement a traffic light system there - green light to go, red light means a secondary inspection, similar to the Mexican border.

Either way, if Brexit is to be a hard Brexit, then there have to be real questions over how the border will cope.
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Old October 15th, 2017, 01:38 PM   #16095
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Looks like they're ready to shoot any illegal trespassers not stopping at their orders.
(If we compare that to how Hungary was slammed by scores of dimwit EU politicians for simply erecting a fence ...)
Most Illegal migrants actually come through Algeria... along with psychotropic drugs. That's why Morocco built an electronic fence



If those border patrols were at the Mali border I would agree (They could stop 90% of migrants)

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Old October 15th, 2017, 01:59 PM   #16096
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I went to Gibraltar yesterday, and the border is a joke as always.

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Either way, if Brexit is to be a hard Brexit, then there have to be real questions over how the border will cope.
Why? Is quite normal behavior of the border police and customs there.

Why should a country care who is leaving the country unless you are searching for someone important? This is of interest of the destination country. So, Spain and UK are not checking, when you leave the country and checking when you enter the country.

This is how it's handled on nearly every border, at least in Europe.

And since Gibraltar is not part of the European Single Market, Spain has to make customs controls there. And other hand, Gibraltar can freely choose to check or not.
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Old October 15th, 2017, 08:06 PM   #16097
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Why? Is quite normal behavior of the border police and customs there.

Why should a country care who is leaving the country unless you are searching for someone important? This is of interest of the destination country. So, Spain and UK are not checking, when you leave the country and checking when you enter the country.

This is how it's handled on nearly every border, at least in Europe.

And since Gibraltar is not part of the European Single Market, Spain has to make customs controls there. And other hand, Gibraltar can freely choose to check or not.
I don't know if this is the case with Gibraltar, but the Spanish police usually check people leaving the country towards Andorra because of the money they may be carrying. There's a € 10,000 limit per person, if I'm not mistaken.

So, it's not really about who is leaving the country, but about what is leaving the country.
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Old October 16th, 2017, 12:38 AM   #16098
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I agree...

From Spanish police there is barely control about passports. Let's see they are OK and enough (be sure, they can have more problems with local citizens in areas like security, it is a weird area)

About goods... exporting, all is allowed except more than 10.000 euro in cash. You may declare it. Should you carry more they will take all the money and put into a bank account giving you only 1.000 euro (and a summary to claim for it later). Be sure you will be fine.

For importation, I watched on TV a case of a person with so much tobacco inside the car, in hidden areas that police need two shopping carts to put it.... and as far as he declared several times he didn't have anything to declare... they barely destroyed the car to find all smuggling.

They "smell" smugglers and a big number are local citizens (high dole, low salaries and seems to be easy... but you can be in a trouble)
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Old October 16th, 2017, 01:59 AM   #16099
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Why should a country care who is leaving the country unless you are searching for someone important?
I've heard that
  • Romania is checking upon exit of foreign-registered vehicles if these have a valid mandatory road toll sticker (required for entire road network)
  • Albania is collecting fines issued to foreign-registered vehicles upon exit (unless these have already been paid in the country)
Can someone confirm?
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Old October 16th, 2017, 04:12 AM   #16100
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And since Gibraltar is not part of the European Single Market ...
Where did you get that?
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