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Old October 6th, 2014, 12:45 AM   #201
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have you seen the new road beween Minsk-Gomel. The whole road will be a 2x2
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 10:20 PM   #202
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They've made a decision to go all concrete on Minsk ring road 2, no asphalt. This is the test kilometer, we'll see how it goes (photos from September)



26 cm gornji sloj, 44 cm ukupno















http://auto.tut.by/news/road/415117.html
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 10:26 PM   #203
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That's near the village of Vishnevka, approximately 10 kilometers north of Minsk.
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Old December 2nd, 2014, 10:30 PM   #204
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I am wondering about a few things, first of all is the driving experience comparable or is it significantly louder/bumpier, then how long do these concrete roads last and finally are they reparable like asphalt roads that you can fix many times by placing a new layer ie. what happens when it starts cracking?

Btw in July they've decided that all roads down to alleys will be made of concrete http://auto.tut.by/news/road/407401.html
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Old December 3rd, 2014, 01:08 AM   #205
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From my experience in Canada
1 -slightly louder, should be smooth
2 - approx twice as long
3 - not really - you can scrape it and apply asphalt though

One main highway near my home was resurfaced in concrete around 2000. About 2 years ago on centre lane (of 3) the concrete started to spall. It hasn't been repaired and is quite bumpy there. But left lane is smooth still.

Of course, there are exceptions, like very long lived pavement of Polish road 18, 76 years old pavement and still, well, really terrible
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Old December 4th, 2014, 07:32 PM   #206
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Is it normal to have such a thick layer of concrete, almost half a metre? Is it bacause of the cold winters in Minsk?
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Old December 4th, 2014, 07:59 PM   #207
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It is just 25cm
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Old December 5th, 2014, 11:31 PM   #208
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Someone wrote above that there is a concrete sub-level of 18 cm, so about 44 cm all together.
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Old December 13th, 2014, 03:05 AM   #209
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Belarus should improve its highway network with EU's country: Poland and Lithuania. I think if Belarus does that they would become more independent from Russia. To build highways such Minsk - Vilnius, Minsk - Warsaw and Minsk - Kiev will turn Belarus economy less dependent on Russia.
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Old December 13th, 2014, 06:41 AM   #210
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Sure, but does BY (or rather, Lukashenko) want more independence from Russia? They united for a while to be the same country (LOL)

Mind you export of excellent BY food products to Russia like squid, champagne and French cheese "product of BY" is excellent business
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Old December 13th, 2014, 03:37 PM   #211
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This 8.0km section from Dubraulyany to Plianty: > click <? Well, this section will be grade-separated and could count for my list.
Is it an upgrade 1x2 to 2x2 (adding 2nd carriageway)? When have the works been started? When will it be completed?

1) Yes,it's upgrade 2x2 from 1x2
2) Works been started in 2011
3) It hard to answer we have difficult financial situation, some constructions are postponed or halted
M6: Dubraulyany – Plianty 21 8km (2011 to ?) – ? – map

According to OSM it seems to be completed now. Does anyone know when it has been opened? IIRC OSM was not yet updated in summer 2014.

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If I got the news article (12th September 2014) right, 88.4km of 160km are currently under construction. 20km were announced to be opened in 2014! 2x2 lanes, 11 grade-separated interchanges, total width: 22m, predicted AADT > 20,000 vehicles/day.

Does anyone have accurate data about the u/c sections (see above: road name, section length, date of construction begin, date of estimated completion, map), is the first section already in service?
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Old December 14th, 2014, 12:37 AM   #212
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Belarus should improve its highway network with EU's country: Poland and Lithuania. I think if Belarus does that they would become more independent from Russia. To build highways such Minsk - Vilnius, Minsk - Warsaw and Minsk - Kiev will turn Belarus economy less dependent on Russia.
To Poland? Minsk - Warsaw?
Go to Gmaps ASAP.

And out of politics, please.
BY has better living standard than some EU countries.
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Old December 14th, 2014, 12:53 AM   #213
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To Poland? Minsk - Warsaw?
Go to Gmaps ASAP.

And out of politics, please.
BY has better living standard than some EU countries.
Warsaw - Brest - Minsk

It might be a nice track to an highway!!!

Out of Bulgaria and Romania Belarus has no better standard of living than orthers countries from EU. Even my country in South America has better Standard of Living than these both. It doesn't mean anything.

I suggest you to see the Pan-European Corridor II:


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan-European_Corridor_II


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Old December 14th, 2014, 02:00 AM   #214
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But there is already excellent motorway from Russian border via Minsk to Brest (border with Poland)!
Poles don't want to build their stretch from Warsaw to border with Belarus.
At least this motorway is not their priority in following period.
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Old December 14th, 2014, 10:44 PM   #215
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To Poland? Minsk - Warsaw?
Go to Gmaps ASAP.

And out of politics, please.
BY has better living standard than some EU countries.
No, it hasn't. Even RO and BG have higher GDP per capita than Belarus. Not to mention the dictatorial regime and the extreme corruption.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...%29_per_capita
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Old December 14th, 2014, 11:12 PM   #216
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No, it hasn't. Even RO and BG have higher GDP per capita than Belarus. Not to mention the dictatorial regime and the extreme corruption.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...%29_per_capita
Well nominal GDP is not the best measurement Much better is GDP at purchasing power parity per capita. And belarus is indeed better then other two countries:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...%29_per_capita
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Old December 19th, 2014, 06:55 PM   #217
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Highway M-1 Orsha - Brest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJ9ZXnYtg2E

and another one - from 12min

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYeuHRNMn94

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Old December 19th, 2014, 07:24 PM   #218
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But there is already excellent motorway from Russian border via Minsk to Brest (border with Poland)!
Poles don't want to build their stretch from Warsaw to border with Belarus.
At least this motorway is not their priority in following period.
Well, section of A2 motorway between Warsaw and Minsk Mazowiecki will be finished hopefully before 2020. Remaining part from Minsk Mazowiecki to the border with Belarus (about 160 km) is indeed in question, at least for next couple of years...
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Old December 19th, 2014, 08:16 PM   #219
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Poles don't want to build their stretch from Warsaw to border with Belarus.
At least this motorway is not their priority in following period.
It is not entirely a question of what the government of Poland wants or doesn't want. Most of the funding for highway construction in Poland comes from the EU and the EU is naturally most interested in funding connections within the EU, followed by funding connections to countries which are trying to join the EU. Connections to countries not expected to join the EU is not an EU funding priority.
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Old December 20th, 2014, 08:02 AM   #220
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It is not entirely a question of what the government of Poland wants or doesn't want. Most of the funding for highway construction in Poland comes from the EU and the EU is naturally most interested in funding connections within the EU, followed by funding connections to countries which are trying to join the EU. Connections to countries not expected to join the EU is not an EU funding priority.
more information here:
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showth...#post119958696
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