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Old July 24th, 2013, 06:53 PM   #161
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I have a question of M1 highway:

- Is that road a 2x2 highway in all it's length? I see some photos in internet and this highway appears like 2x2 highway but without median.
Here is accelerated film, from very beginning M1 on RUS-BY boarder to the end on BY-PL boarder. As you can see it is 2x2 all its length.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 07:49 PM   #162
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Ah they installed a cable barrier on M1 east of Orsha. I remember seeing photos of that segment with just a small paved median.

Although M1 is a 2x2 divided highway for its entire length, not all segments are up to motorway standards, there are some at-grade intersections, especially east of Orsha. It's a good and adequate road though.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 09:46 PM   #163
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Google Maps is all one needs to look at to see where it's a motorway and where it isn't.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 09:53 PM   #164
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Yes! Unfortunately, according to the new coloring system M1 in BY is motorway and S roads in Poland are show as regular roads when in fact S roads in Poland are clearly better than M1. The same is with Ukraine where M05 is just a 2x2 regular road sub standard to even M1 but appears as motorway.

That being said, i loved the video and M1 looks ok. I like the green grass around the road! It is decent enough and it seems to take around 5 hours for 500 km which is great time! It could be easily upgraded to EU motorway standard. I noticed some pedestrian crossings which were odd but except that, from Orsha to Kobryn it looked good!
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Old July 24th, 2013, 10:16 PM   #165
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Google Maps is all one needs to look at to see where it's a motorway and where it isn't.
So you are now our own personal, worthy-official, H&A section, whether it's a motorway or not, detective?
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Old July 24th, 2013, 10:51 PM   #166
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No, but Belarusian M1 is an easy task.
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Old July 24th, 2013, 11:01 PM   #167
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Yes! Unfortunately, according to the new coloring system M1 in BY is motorway and S roads in Poland are show as regular roads when in fact S roads in Poland are clearly better than M1. The same is with Ukraine where M05 is just a 2x2 regular road sub standard to even M1 but appears as motorway.
Yes, Google is a big mess now. There is no more a way to find expressways in Poland. Now they are showed as a regular road....
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Old October 7th, 2013, 07:31 PM   #168
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Old January 12th, 2014, 11:40 AM   #169
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Are there any new motorway or expressway sections currently under construction in Belarus?
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Old January 12th, 2014, 12:40 PM   #170
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Are there any new motorway or expressway sections currently under construction in Belarus?
No we have no any new motorway sections u/c in our country and we are not going to build motorways in foreseeable future. Our minister of communication made such announcement last year. But we have any sections first class road 2x2 u/c.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 12:44 PM   #171
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But we have any sections first class road 2x2 u/c.
Thanks . Are these u/c 2x2 roads expressways (grade-separated and access-controlled)?
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Old January 12th, 2014, 01:03 PM   #172
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Thanks . Are these u/c 2x2 roads expressways (grade-separated and access-controlled)?
In M4 Minsk-Mogilev which was finished last year in total distance 2X2 some stretches are grade-separated some stretches no. Now we have construction works in first class road 2x2 in short stretch M6 near Schuchin in Grodno region and in P23 in Minsk region in Slutck district but near Slutck works were halted last autumn(difficult financial situation in country).
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Old January 12th, 2014, 01:28 PM   #173
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Now we have construction works in first class road 2x2 in short stretch M6 near Schuchin in Grodno region
This 8.0km section from Dubraulyany to Plianty: > click <? Well, this section will be grade-separated and could count for my list.
Is it an upgrade 1x2 to 2x2 (adding 2nd carriageway)? When have the works been started? When will it be completed?

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and in P23 in Minsk region in Slutck district but near Slutck works were halted last autumn(difficult financial situation in country).
I cannot find Slutck on the map (neither OSM nor GM). But I think the P23 is not grade-separated, isn't it?
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Slutsk is about 100 km due south of Minsk.
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Thanks, Chris . The P23 is also not grade-separated there.
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This 8.0km section from Dubraulyany to Plianty: > click <? Well, this section will be grade-separated and could count for my list.
Is it an upgrade 1x2 to 2x2 (adding 2nd carriageway)? When have the works been started? When will it be completed?
1) Yes,it's upgrade 2x2 from 1x2
2) Works been started in 2011
3) It hard to answer we have difficult financial situation, some constructions are postponed or halted



I cannot find Slutck on the map (neither OSM nor GM). But I think the P23 is not grade-separated, isn't it?[/QUOTE]
Most sections in P23 are not grade-separated. In the stretch Minsk-Gatcuk(Гацук) it's 2x2 first class road 67 кm, in the stretch Gatcuk-Slutsk 34 km it's usual 1Х2 road. Consruction works were near village Gatcuk upgrade 1х2 to 2х2 in distance 7 km from the end 2х2 first class road.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 07:42 PM   #177
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Unfortunately, according to the new coloring system M1 in BY is motorway and S roads in Poland are show as regular roads when in fact S roads in Poland are clearly better than M1. The same is with Ukraine where M05 is just a 2x2 regular road sub standard to even M1 but appears as motorway.
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Yes, Google is a big mess now. There is no more a way to find expressways in Poland. Now they are showed as a regular road.
Apple Maps have it right. All 2x2 dual carriageways and higher class roads are distinguished from ordinary roads.
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Old January 12th, 2014, 10:04 PM   #178
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Google Maps is all one needs to look at to see where it's a motorway and where it isn't.
It isn't! Only "officcial" motorways are colored as such, when all motorway-type but not officcially so segments are the same color as 1+1-laned main roads.
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Old January 13th, 2014, 02:03 AM   #179
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It isn't! Only "officcial" motorways are colored as such, when all motorway-type but not officcially so segments are the same color as 1+1-laned main roads.
That's what I said - motorway, not motorway-like. Anyway, Google Maps have changed the Belarusian M1 since I wrote that, because it shows everything northeast of Minsk as a motorway, even though I think it's a motorway only up to Orsha or so.

By the way, when did they build a bypass north of Brest?
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By the way, when did they build a bypass north of Brest?
Probably 30 years ago. The border crossing opened in 1984. It was improved circa 2004-2005, with several grade-separated interchanges.
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