Thoughts and Comments? - Page 3

RafflesCity · November 15th, 2002, 09:58 PM

Thanks Liz! Glad that you enjoy this section..in fact, I enjoy reading your comments as theyre very insightful..are you an architecture student?

Your help with the statistics would be great..I am not sure if we will wrap up this section or leave it open..Jason?

But we will be starting the 101-200 so many more buildings for you to gape at!!

Liz L · November 16th, 2002, 09:57 AM

Thanks very much for the good words, Raffles - actually, I'm a librarian by profession, but I'm also an artist, if not professional caliber, and I like to think I have an artist's eye (and architecture is, in some sense, a form of art). I also appreciate beauty in all its forms, from well wrought jewelry, to mountains, to gothic cathedrals, to soaring skyscrapers...

Oddly enough, 9/11 sparked my interest in architecture - I now have a greater appreciation of city skylines, and the people who put them up there. If you're interested, you might like to check out my net site - http://cybrarian.blogspot.com - architecture, poetry, politics...

As for the stats - if you send them to me in separate batches as you collect them, I think I can set up the spreadsheets so I can just add them in as I receive them.

PS - you should have seen hubby and myself in Chicago this summer, strolling along, gawking at the awesome skyscrapers, me darting here and there looking for that perfect shot...I bet it took Chicagoans about 5 seconds to figure out we were tourists LOL...

Cheerio!

Liz

Jasonhouse · November 17th, 2002, 07:03 AM

This forum will serve as a database, basically. So far as I know, they will be here and open as long as the site is still in existence.

I can see that we almost have all 100! Holy smokes, you guys have been very busy while I'm away!

I can see that we are going to have to resolve organizational issues very soon...

SUNNI · November 29th, 2002, 10:07 AM

can someone add the hyundai hyperion towers in Seoul, Korea?
its topped out and almost looks perfect!

November 29th, 2002, 11:18 PM

you should probably wait until it's officialy completed first.

Liz L · November 30th, 2002, 06:32 AM

Folks, I have a question - the Bank One Tower in Indianapolis isn't on a couple of lists of the world's 100 tallest skyscrapers I have - one is in Judith Dupre's book. Does the list you're working from include the spire height? Even if it does, I don't think that building could be more than 800 ft. tall, with or withour spires, because if it were, it would be twice as tall as our next tallest building, which it isn't They're within a block or two of each other, so it's easy to tell. I'm a native of Indianapolis, and hate to knock a possible local claim to fame, but still and all...

I'll try to get some information Monday...
BTW, this is assuming 10 ft. or a tad more per story, including structure of the floor itself, except for the first one or two floors - a good guess, I think, since I've been in Bank One and our #2 tower, the 36 story high black box with white trim you can see in a couple of the pics of Bank One...

RafflesCity · November 30th, 2002, 06:31 PM

SUNNI> we will add it once its facade is more or less completed. What is the status of the cladding?
In general we will add new buildings once their exterior is more or less complete and this will be done in cycles. But thanks for pointing out this building

Liz> We include the spire in the height and we have taken our height sources from skyscrapers.com 247m. It is interesting to note that skyscraperpage gave the height as 250m.

D-Mac · November 30th, 2002, 11:47 PM

Liz, I think the height figure of 247m for the Bank One Tower is reasonable. The second tallest in Indianapolis, the AUL Tower is 162m and 38 floors, while the Bank One Tower is 49 floors. So Just based on number of floors one would expect it to be about 25-30% taller or at around 205-210m. Add on a 40m or so spire and the height becomes 245-250m. So just based on this rough estimation, 247m for Indianapolis' tallest doesn't seem unreasonable at all. Also it's not twice as tall, it's almost exactly 50% taller.

Liz L · December 1st, 2002, 04:19 AM

Thanks for clearing that up, DMac and RafflesCity - I need to catch up a bit on my local 'scrapers, I see...I hadn't even known that AUL was taller than the black box with white trim, which used to be the Indiana National Bank Tower, until INB got swallowed by some larger fiscal fish, whose name escapes me right now.

At any rate, that particular black box is, BTW, THE premier place in Indy for launching fireworks. A couple of times when I was a teenager, I had a front-row seat for the 4th of July fireworks on the roof of a building right across the street...you should have heard the echoes ricochet from building to building!

If the two lists I looked at didn't count spires, that would explain why they didn't list Bank One - and will still allow me the extra pleasure of knowing that Indy has broken into the architectural "big league"

Oh, BTW - On Architecture Digest online some time ago, a lively dispute was going on as to which was taller - Sears or Petronas...with the usual learned discussion about whether antennas really, really should be counted, whether highest inhabited floor should be the deciding factor, etc. One weisenheimer finally commented that the only way to settle the spat for good would be to run a tether from the Sears tower up to the space station....that would take care of that!

RafflesCity · December 1st, 2002, 04:34 AM

LOL

THAT debate will never end..i think there was even such a debate on this forum, but I highly recommend you do not dig it up

Liz L · December 1st, 2002, 10:27 AM

Actually, I think I stumbled on it once, Rafflescity, but I'm not getting involved except to chuckle from the sidelines.

The battle lines HAVE BEEN DRAWN, and the positions some folks take on this seem to be about as flexible as the positions a "Yankee" and a southerner might take when discussing who really, really should have won the Civil War, which some insist should really be called "The War Between the States," because there wasn't anything "civil" about it...

December 4th, 2002, 08:29 AM

This building should be No. 83: http://www.skyscrapers.com/english/w...046/index.html

Topped out late 2001, here is a rendering:

RafflesCity · December 4th, 2002, 01:45 PM

Thank you very much for updating us Shanghigh and thanks for that rendering!

We will seek to insert this building during our next update. Meanwhile if u have pics of this building u may contribute. Simply message DMac or myself

Bobdreamz · December 15th, 2002, 04:54 AM

yeah I'm done with the ROT 100!!....rated and commented on every building..it took a while but it was fun to learn about skyscrapers from all over the world...thanks to Raffles & DMac for their hard work!!...now onto ROT 100-200!!!

RafflesCity · December 17th, 2002, 06:15 AM

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Congrats bobdreamz!!

December 19th, 2002, 12:50 AM

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<tr><td align=left valign=top>yeah I'm done with the ROT 100!!....rated and commented on every building..it took a while but it was fun to learn about skyscrapers from all over the world...thanks to Raffles & DMac for their hard work!!...now onto ROT 100-200!!!

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Congrats bobdreamz!!

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well i'm just waiting for ROT 200-300

windsorcastle · August 10th, 2003, 07:43 PM

that was informative

windsorcastle · August 10th, 2003, 07:46 PM

wow how do u know so much can u give me any info on the oub in s'pore

September 3rd, 2003, 02:18 AM

Thanks to DMac, RafflesCity, Naptown, SavetheWTC, and all other mods that made this possible. I never thought I could have so much fun on a syscraper forum. I'll be doing the Top 101-200 this week. I hope it will be as fun as the Top 100.

RafflesCity · September 3rd, 2003, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SFtoBoise

Thanks to DMac, RafflesCity, Naptown, SavetheWTC, and all other mods that made this possible. I never thought I could have so much fun on a syscraper forum. I'll be doing the Top 101-200 this week. I hope it will be as fun as the Top 100.

Congrats!!!

I am sure you will have just as much fun

November 16th, 2002, 09:57 AM	#42
Liz L Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 403 Likes (Received): 0	Thanks very much for the good words, Raffles - actually, I'm a librarian by profession, but I'm also an artist, if not professional caliber, and I like to think I have an artist's eye (and architecture is, in some sense, a form of art). I also appreciate beauty in all its forms, from well wrought jewelry, to mountains, to gothic cathedrals, to soaring skyscrapers... Oddly enough, 9/11 sparked my interest in architecture - I now have a greater appreciation of city skylines, and the people who put them up there. If you're interested, you might like to check out my net site - http://cybrarian.blogspot.com - architecture, poetry, politics... As for the stats - if you send them to me in separate batches as you collect them, I think I can set up the spreadsheets so I can just add them in as I receive them. PS - you should have seen hubby and myself in Chicago this summer, strolling along, gawking at the awesome skyscrapers, me darting here and there looking for that perfect shot...I bet it took Chicagoans about 5 seconds to figure out we were tourists LOL... Cheerio! Liz __________________ Liz L Art Deco rules! Last edited by Liz L; November 16th, 2002 at 10:02 AM.

November 29th, 2002, 10:07 AM	#44
SUNNI architect by day Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Brisbane Posts: 3,059 Likes (Received): 0	can someone add the hyundai hyperion towers in Seoul, Korea? its topped out and almost looks perfect! __________________ kr.au

November 30th, 2002, 06:32 AM	#46
Liz L Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 403 Likes (Received): 0	Folks, I have a question - the Bank One Tower in Indianapolis isn't on a couple of lists of the world's 100 tallest skyscrapers I have - one is in Judith Dupre's book. Does the list you're working from include the spire height? Even if it does, I don't think that building could be more than 800 ft. tall, with or withour spires, because if it were, it would be twice as tall as our next tallest building, which it isn't They're within a block or two of each other, so it's easy to tell. I'm a native of Indianapolis, and hate to knock a possible local claim to fame, but still and all... I'll try to get some information Monday... BTW, this is assuming 10 ft. or a tad more per story, including structure of the floor itself, except for the first one or two floors - a good guess, I think, since I've been in Bank One and our #2 tower, the 36 story high black box with white trim you can see in a couple of the pics of Bank One... __________________ Liz L Art Deco rules! Last edited by Liz L; November 30th, 2002 at 06:49 AM.

December 1st, 2002, 04:19 AM	#49
Liz L Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 403 Likes (Received): 0	Thanks for clearing that up, DMac and RafflesCity - I need to catch up a bit on my local 'scrapers, I see...I hadn't even known that AUL was taller than the black box with white trim, which used to be the Indiana National Bank Tower, until INB got swallowed by some larger fiscal fish, whose name escapes me right now. At any rate, that particular black box is, BTW, THE premier place in Indy for launching fireworks. A couple of times when I was a teenager, I had a front-row seat for the 4th of July fireworks on the roof of a building right across the street...you should have heard the echoes ricochet from building to building! If the two lists I looked at didn't count spires, that would explain why they didn't list Bank One - and will still allow me the extra pleasure of knowing that Indy has broken into the architectural "big league" Oh, BTW - On Architecture Digest online some time ago, a lively dispute was going on as to which was taller - Sears or Petronas...with the usual learned discussion about whether antennas really, really should be counted, whether highest inhabited floor should be the deciding factor, etc. One weisenheimer finally commented that the only way to settle the spat for good would be to run a tether from the Sears tower up to the space station....that would take care of that! __________________ Liz L Art Deco rules!

December 1st, 2002, 10:27 AM	#51
Liz L Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Indianapolis, IN Posts: 403 Likes (Received): 0	Actually, I think I stumbled on it once, Rafflescity, but I'm not getting involved except to chuckle from the sidelines. The battle lines HAVE BEEN DRAWN, and the positions some folks take on this seem to be about as flexible as the positions a "Yankee" and a southerner might take when discussing who really, really should have won the Civil War, which some insist should really be called "The War Between the States," because there wasn't anything "civil" about it... __________________ Liz L Art Deco rules!

November 15th, 2002, 09:58 PM	#41
RafflesCity By Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S I N G A P O R E Posts: 26,215 Likes (Received): 2	Thanks Liz! Glad that you enjoy this section..in fact, I enjoy reading your comments as theyre very insightful..are you an architecture student? Your help with the statistics would be great..I am not sure if we will wrap up this section or leave it open..Jason? But we will be starting the 101-200 so many more buildings for you to gape at!!

November 17th, 2002, 07:03 AM	#43
Jasonhouse Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 12,271 Likes (Received): 8	This forum will serve as a database, basically. So far as I know, they will be here and open as long as the site is still in existence. I can see that we almost have all 100! Holy smokes, you guys have been very busy while I'm away! I can see that we are going to have to resolve organizational issues very soon...

November 29th, 2002, 11:18 PM	#45
Sunflower Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	you should probably wait until it's officialy completed first.

November 30th, 2002, 06:31 PM	#47
RafflesCity By Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S I N G A P O R E Posts: 26,215 Likes (Received): 2	SUNNI> we will add it once its facade is more or less completed. What is the status of the cladding? In general we will add new buildings once their exterior is more or less complete and this will be done in cycles. But thanks for pointing out this building Liz> We include the spire in the height and we have taken our height sources from skyscrapers.com 247m. It is interesting to note that skyscraperpage gave the height as 250m.

November 30th, 2002, 11:47 PM	#48
D-Mac Old School Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 144 Likes (Received): 0	Liz, I think the height figure of 247m for the Bank One Tower is reasonable. The second tallest in Indianapolis, the AUL Tower is 162m and 38 floors, while the Bank One Tower is 49 floors. So Just based on number of floors one would expect it to be about 25-30% taller or at around 205-210m. Add on a 40m or so spire and the height becomes 245-250m. So just based on this rough estimation, 247m for Indianapolis' tallest doesn't seem unreasonable at all. Also it's not twice as tall, it's almost exactly 50% taller.

December 1st, 2002, 04:34 AM	#50
RafflesCity By Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S I N G A P O R E Posts: 26,215 Likes (Received): 2	LOL THAT debate will never end..i think there was even such a debate on this forum, but I highly recommend you do not dig it up

December 4th, 2002, 08:29 AM	#52
ShangHigh Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	This building should be No. 83: http://www.skyscrapers.com/english/w...046/index.html Topped out late 2001, here is a rendering:

December 4th, 2002, 01:45 PM	#53
RafflesCity By Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S I N G A P O R E Posts: 26,215 Likes (Received): 2	Thank you very much for updating us Shanghigh and thanks for that rendering! We will seek to insert this building during our next update. Meanwhile if u have pics of this building u may contribute. Simply message DMac or myself

December 15th, 2002, 04:54 AM	#54
Bobdreamz Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Miami/Orlando, Florida Posts: 1,846 Likes (Received): 3	yeah I'm done with the ROT 100!!....rated and commented on every building..it took a while but it was fun to learn about skyscrapers from all over the world...thanks to Raffles & DMac for their hard work!!...now onto ROT 100-200!!! __________________ Metro Miami...1000+ highrises completed & under construction.

December 17th, 2002, 06:15 AM	#55
RafflesCity By Spirit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: S I N G A P O R E Posts: 26,215 Likes (Received): 2	<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"> <td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Bobdreamz </i></b> </smallfont> </td> <tr><td align=left valign=top>yeah I'm done with the ROT 100!!....rated and commented on every building..it took a while but it was fun to learn about skyscrapers from all over the world...thanks to Raffles & DMac for their hard work!!...now onto ROT 100-200!!! </td></tr> </table> Congrats bobdreamz!!

December 19th, 2002, 12:50 AM	#56
Sunflower Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	<table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"> <td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by RafflesCity </i></b> </smallfont> </td> <tr><td align=left valign=top><table cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=98% class="quoteBox"> <td align=left valign=center> <smallfont> <b>Quote</B> <I>originally posted by Bobdreamz </i></b> </smallfont> </td> <tr><td align=left valign=top>yeah I'm done with the ROT 100!!....rated and commented on every building..it took a while but it was fun to learn about skyscrapers from all over the world...thanks to Raffles & DMac for their hard work!!...now onto ROT 100-200!!! </td></tr> </table> Congrats bobdreamz!! </td></tr> </table> well i'm just waiting for ROT 200-300

August 10th, 2003, 07:43 PM	#57
windsorcastle champion Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Thetford Posts: 39 Likes (Received): 0	that was informative __________________ http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6...nnertw5ej0.png When your standing on the field of dreams just look over and ill be standing right there with you READY....Ready to FIGHT!! Fight for the Order

August 10th, 2003, 07:46 PM	#58
windsorcastle champion Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Thetford Posts: 39 Likes (Received): 0	wow how do u know so much can u give me any info on the oub in s'pore __________________ http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/6...nnertw5ej0.png When your standing on the field of dreams just look over and ill be standing right there with you READY....Ready to FIGHT!! Fight for the Order

September 3rd, 2003, 02:18 AM	#59
SFtoBoise Guest Posts: n/a Likes (Received):	Thanks to DMac, RafflesCity, Naptown, SavetheWTC, and all other mods that made this possible. I never thought I could have so much fun on a syscraper forum. I'll be doing the Top 101-200 this week. I hope it will be as fun as the Top 100.

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