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Old June 6th, 2008, 10:18 PM   #201
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No it is not a cross-platform interchange.
Since RATP RER use its own platform and tracks as SNCF Transilien suburban train.

It is easy to see the difference between the platforms, the RER platform have an RATP signs and the suburban rail platforms have transilien signs.

A track map of Nanterre Universite station.



In black Transillien suburban train.
In red RER A.
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Old June 10th, 2008, 02:15 PM   #202
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Old June 10th, 2008, 10:22 PM   #203
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the first station looks busy and the other one looks like a side platform station i guess the first one has alot of traffic though.
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Old June 11th, 2008, 12:04 AM   #204
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According my RER book there is about 4 million entrance per years in Bourg la Reine station.
So the traffic of the station is 8 million.
(22,000 passengers per day) not so busy.
It is the third busiest station outside inner Paris in the southern RER B.

Nanterre Universite (Only the RER A) has about 4.5 million entrances per years, so a traffic of about 9 million. (25,000 passengers per day).
The busiest station in the RER A is Gare de Lyon with 36 million entrances.
About 72 million passengers per year (197,000 per day).
The RER busiest station outside inner Paris is La Defense (RER A) with 32 million entrances.
About 64 millions passengers per year (175,000 per day).


RATP data only include entrance, exit are not include, so for having an estimation of the realite I multiplied by two the entrance numbers.
There is about the same number of entrance and exit especially in the RER.
I only have the data for the RER A (excepted Possy and Cergy branchs) and the southern RER B because the other lines or branchs are operated by the SNCF.
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Old June 12th, 2008, 11:18 AM   #205
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Oooo I love those new Transilien trains! So sleek and they even have video screens... How often do those trains run? Is it like commuter rail or what?
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Old June 19th, 2008, 02:56 PM   #206
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These trains don't run yet and will not run in RER system.
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Old June 19th, 2008, 06:57 PM   #207
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I don't understand why the deep level RER stations were built with side platforms, it seems bad for passenger flow, and more difficult to construct. I bet it's just the French wanted to be different!
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Old June 19th, 2008, 07:18 PM   #208
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It don't change anything for passengers flow but it is difficult to build at deep level.
The history about the choise between side or islands platfroms is complicated, RATP engineers wanted an express subway like the metro but larger.
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Old June 19th, 2008, 09:10 PM   #209
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Single vault stations in St Petersburg have island platforms, I think it looks tidier and I disagree with the passenger flow, in St Petersburg you just exit the train and walk towards the escalators, on the RER there were several escalator shafts all along the platform which all went to an upper level... Well, that's how I remembered it.
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Old June 19th, 2008, 09:44 PM   #210
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even with an island platform it would be the same I don't see the difference.
Stations with island platform like Gare de Lyon or Chatelet les Halles have exaclty the same, several escalator all along the platform.
Having many escalators all along the platform is better for the passenger flow.

I don't get your point.
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Old June 19th, 2008, 09:51 PM   #211
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The route is more direct with an island platform, that's what I mean.

Anyway, I haven't been to every deep level station on the RER so I probably shouldn't have commented.
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I was in Paris on 23-25 april 2008, and I was fascinated by the metro and RER!
I took the RER from Versailles-Chantiers to La Défense. (i had visited the castle of Versailles)
Versailles-Chantiers is awful by the way...

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Old June 19th, 2008, 11:40 PM   #213
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That's right Versailles Chantiers is awfull (the district and the station), the station will be renovated (maybe extented) and a new atractive district will be build here.

Anyway you didn't take the RER at Versailles Chantiers but La Verriere - La Defense suburban line.
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That's right Versailles Chantiers is awfull (the district and the station), the station will be renovated (maybe extented) and a new atractive district will be build here.

Anyway you didn't take the RER at Versailles Chantiers but La Verriere - La Defense suburban line.
Strange, I'm 100% sure it was Chantiers... That station made me think om Sarbogard station, Hungary, whare I have been in april...
(I made this video)
Versailles is such a big... contrast: the magnificent castle of Louis XIV, and then... such a terrifying district...
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Old June 20th, 2008, 12:54 AM   #215
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Sorry my sentence was confusing, yes you took the train at Versailles Chantiers but it was not a RER line. It was La Verriere - La Defense suburban line.
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Old June 20th, 2008, 01:04 AM   #216
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Strange, I'm 100% sure it was Chantiers... That station made me think om Sarbogard station, Hungary, whare I have been in april...
(I made this video)
Versailles is such a big... contrast: the magnificent castle of Louis XIV, and then... such a terrifying district...
He means you didn't take the RER but La Verrière - La Défense Transilien train. Many Transilien trains look similar to the RER trains but its a different system. Some suburban cities of the Paris Region are served by both RER and Transilien and some only by one of the two. So you took a ride on the Transilien, not the RER.

I agree. Versailles RER and Transilien stations are unattractive, especially Versailles-Chantiers. Personally, I find most Versailles unattractive, which like you say, is a contrast from the Versailles Palace and its grounds. Some people say Versailles is a tired, old, suburb of Paris with people who inherited property in a prestigious location but some of those individuals don't have money like their ancestors (just the property and name they inherited) but they still pursue life as if they were aristocratic, while their properties decay. But I don't know how much of this is true.
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Sorry my sentence was confusing, yes you took the train at Versailles Chantiers but it was not a RER line. It was La Verriere - La Defense suburban line.
Oo...I see. Indeed, I didn't understand your sentence well...
But now we understand each other!
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I just noticed your video on Sarbogard station, Hungary. I like the music in the beginning. It fits well the state in which the station is in Well, I didn't realize Versailles-Chantiers station looked that bad. Well, President Sarkozy's father is Hungarian, though. You got to have a bit of Hungary in France
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I just noticed your video on Sarbogard station, Hungary. I like the music in the beginning. It fits well the state in which the station is in Well, I didn't realize Versailles-Chantiers station looked that bad. Well, President Sarkozy's father is Hungarian, though. You got to have a bit of Hungary in France
My grandfather is Hungarian as well, i've got family in the neighbourhood of Sarbogard. By the way, the music comes from the vinyl "Rendezvous" from J.M. Jarre. (I like that kind of music)

But... back ontopic?
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Old June 20th, 2008, 06:48 PM   #220
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Crap. Dubbel post. F#cking error500.
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