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Old May 3rd, 2017, 10:19 PM   #2321
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Are there plans to build physically integrated connections between RER C Avenue Foch and M2 Porte Dauphine; between RER C Musée d'Osray and M12 Solferino; and between RER C Javel and M10 Andrè Citroën?
No. And that would not really make sense :

- Foch and Javel are very close from the métro stations entrances ; such a link would be useless, i think ; and there's no space available underground between Foch and Porte Dauphine (an undergroud footpath would have to be deep underground to cross the tracks of the RER) ;

- the distance between Musée d'Orsay and Solférino is far too important (but a better signage would be useful, especially for foreigners ! Many tourists get lost between the two stations...)


The real "missing link" is between Austerlitz and Gare de Lyon ; but an underground footpath is not an option : the distance is too important and such a tunnel - under the river Seine - would be very costly ; there's a project for a gondola lift ; and automatic shuttles were tested a few weeks ago :

http://france3-regions.francetvinfo....n-1181797.html
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Old May 4th, 2017, 03:28 AM   #2322
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What do you mean by "the distance is too important" between Orsay and Solferino? Do you mean that it is too far?
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Old May 5th, 2017, 12:02 AM   #2323
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What do you mean by "the distance is too important" between Orsay and Solferino? Do you mean that it is too far?
Yes, you have to walk 5/10 minutes.
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Old May 5th, 2017, 12:35 PM   #2324
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No. And that would not really make sense :

The real "missing link" is between Austerlitz and Gare de Lyon ; but an underground footpath is not an option : the distance is too important and such a tunnel - under the river Seine - would be very costly ; there's a project for a gondola lift ; and automatic shuttles were tested a few weeks ago :

http://france3-regions.francetvinfo....n-1181797.html
An extension of line 10 till Gare de Lyon (may be with an elevated viaduct over the Seine) is not a viable option?
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Old May 5th, 2017, 03:24 PM   #2325
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An extension of line 10 is already planned (around 2027.) It is to follow the river, service the new ZAC Rive Gauche "quartier" (Chevaleret and Bibliothèque François Mitterand stations) and then the suburban city of Ivry-sur-Seine (Bruneseau-Massèna and Ivry-Gambetta stations.)



Besides crossing the river for that line would be an engineering nightmare. If it were to go underground, it would have to make a U turn underneath the river while dodging the many underground infrastructures in the vicinity (including RER C and D, line 1, line 14 and old unused metro tracks called: Voie des Finances.)
As for going overground, it would be just as difficult and would entail destroying buildings that are either brand new or still under construction
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Old May 6th, 2017, 02:15 PM   #2326
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Extending line 10 towards Gare de Lyon doesn't really make sense indeed. The driverless shuttle is the way to go I think, but it's a shame they didn't think about it while redesigning the public space in front of Austerlitz. Had they made a slope coming from the bridge, a shuttle could have easily started from the entrance of Austerlitz and go straight towards Gare de Lyon.
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Old May 12th, 2017, 04:50 PM   #2327
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New automatic operation on the central section of the RER A.





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ATO goes live on Paris RER Line A
10 May 2017

FRANCE: The first trainset fitted with automatic train operation equipment started running on part of Paris RER Line A on April 27. The MI09 electric multiple-unit has been running under automatic operation between Nanterre-Préfecture, Val-de-Fontenay and Fontenay-sous-Bois.

In January 2015 RATP, STIF and the Ile-de-France region selected Alstom to supply ATO equipment under a €20m contract in what the supplier says is the first application of the technology to a heavy rail line. Alstom’s Saint-Ouen and Villeurbanne sites are involved in the work.

ATO that meets Grade of Automation 2 — attended automatic operation with a driver present — will be installed on the Line A fleet of 183 MI2N and MI09 EMUs by November 2018. This will be overlaid on the existing SACEM, which monitors train speed and headways and provides a form of quasi moving block with ‘distance-to-go’ cab signalling overlaid on the lineside fixed blocks. Retrofitting the trains with ATO is intended to reduce the variability in performance associated with manual driving.

Line A currently carries 1·2 million passengers a day. The new signalling will allow commercial speeds to increase by 5 km/h, which is expected to offer savings of around 2 min on the average journey between Vincennes and La Défense. Headways will also be shortened.
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Old May 12th, 2017, 06:59 PM   #2328
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At this point, I would consider quad-tracking RER A to be a viable option.
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Old May 17th, 2017, 12:03 AM   #2329
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Catastrophic month of March for RER B in terms of punctuality:



The green line is the 2017 average so far.

The CEOs of both RATP and SNCF have both been summoned to the authorities for explanations.

https://twitter.com/Asso_usagersidf/...06000908443648
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Temporary bar on top of the Gare de l'Est:









https://twitter.com/MathiasVicherat/...24783178821635
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Nice, the STIF wants to start an electric bike sharing system to complement public transport. The project will be analysed this June in the next STIF meeting. The system will be centred around bike parkings built next to railway stations.

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Old June 13th, 2017, 02:59 PM   #2332
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From The Local

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Paris commuter service to change name from 'RER' to... 'train'
12 June 2017, 16:34



Commuters in Paris will soon never have to catch another "RER" train again in their lives, with transport chiefs to get rid of the name, that has become synonymous with delays, breakdowns and strikes

Transport unions in the greater Paris region of Ile-de-France are planning to scrap the name "RER" from the city's commuter train service.

The current RER services link Paris to its suburbs via various lines: RER A, RER B, RER C, RER D and RER E

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Old June 13th, 2017, 06:38 PM   #2333
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Stif has been running their own set of Metro+Train icons for quite a while. I think that might be what will replace them.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 07:57 PM   #2334
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The Stif actually contradicted this piece of news.

Although they admit they've been working on a potential way of rationalizing the different names used for the different types of transportation, it's only been a study so far and nothing is enacted, especially when it comes to the RER.
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Old June 14th, 2017, 09:40 PM   #2335
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Source? Because they seem to be implementing this new identity. It was on Tram 11 as well.

The implementation for such an expansive system will be an enormous feat though; consider the fact that there is still early-'90s-style signage around (with all-capital letters). Will they manage to update all signage in the Île-de-France in such a short time? Will the RATP keep its own style signage or will the SNCF and RATP finally use the same signs? It should be interesting for sure.

Good luck changing this, for example...
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I'm talking about replacing the name RER by simply "Train".

http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-...ce-737414.html

As far as signage is concerned, here again, nothing is really sure about what will be done, how, and when.
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Old June 16th, 2017, 09:57 PM   #2338
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They should just rename RER as TGV, considering that TGV is being renamed ennui.
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The EU has approved a financing of 1.3bn euro for the Charles de Gaulle Express.

http://bfmbusiness.bfmtv.com/entrepr...e-1195037.html
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Old June 30th, 2017, 01:39 PM   #2340
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Line E, West extension with 3 new stations,here Cnit station under construction















and more information with nice pictures:

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http://www.rer-eole.fr/app/uploads/2...er-EPADESA.pdf
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