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Old September 25th, 2017, 01:12 AM   #2381
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But if we only apply this criterion, hundreds of km of rail lines across Europe, especially close to large cities like Berlin, London, Paris or Madrid, should be classified as "metro" even though other factors, like the above mentioned, make them incompatible with usual metro standards (namely sharing tracks with freight and long-distance trains, or having branches at each end where there's only a train every 20 minutes).
Those definitions are of limited helpfulness too though - parts of the London Underground share tracks with long distance national rail and freight services too for example. Ultimately definitions blur at the boundaries, and the RER is one example of that. I would class it as a hybrid between suburban rail and metro - and I'd class Thameslink and Crossrail in London to be the same. In fact I see each of those as a London version of the RER.
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Old September 28th, 2017, 07:21 PM   #2382
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During my visit to Paris this weekend I had cause to use RER-A several times as my girlfriend's family lives near Cergy. I was quite astonished by the low frequency of the trains, leading to heavy overcrowding like this scene I saw at Nanterre:


(full photo gallery from the trip here: https://mkttransportphoto.smugmug.co...September-2017 )

At one point homing back to Cergy on the Saturday evening there was only one train in half an hour going that way. I've been to Paris before so I'm familiar with what transport there is like, but the level of overcrowding on RER-A really astonished me.
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Old September 28th, 2017, 07:35 PM   #2383
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Tss...suburban people/banleusards...
(Cergy (?), does this town even exist, I'm sure you just invented it!)





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Those definitions are of limited helpfulness too though - parts of the London Underground share tracks with long distance national rail and freight services too for example. Ultimately definitions blur at the boundaries, and the RER is one example of that. I would class it as a hybrid between suburban rail and metro - and I'd class Thameslink and Crossrail in London to be the same. In fact I see each of those as a London version of the RER.
London is where all French (or German) neat categories come to die. Don't try and fit London's network into those categories, nor other cities into London's nebulous categories - it just doesn't work.
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During my visit to Paris this weekend I had cause to use RER-A several times as my girlfriend's family lives near Cergy. I was quite astonished by the low frequency of the trains, leading to heavy overcrowding like this scene I saw at Nanterre
Double-decker trains suffer from the problems that the old A stock had in London (ditto many mainline trains serving metro/suburban routes in London) - designed for high seating capacity, but isn't easy to walk through and doesn't have high standing capacity and thus lower capacity (obviously the second deck reduces this problem, while making other issues worse) and longer dwell times.
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Old September 28th, 2017, 10:17 PM   #2385
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Yeah the service offered to commuters on the Western branches of A and L (in particular for locations further away such as Poissy or Cergy) is quite behind what it should be in terms of frequency, capacity, quality of rolling stock and reliability of time tables. The driver exchange at Nanterre on the RER is also making people mad. The only good news recently for this side of the network is the introduction of Z50000s (to replace completely the old rolling stock) on the Saint-Nom branch of line L. The Versailles branch of L is next if I remember correctly.

That said, for coming home to Cergy from Paris there is also the option of taking line L from Auber. That branch also has a one train per thirty minutes frequency on a Saturday night. There is also a L line train connecting Cergy to Houilles, but that one is more useful when coming from Cergy to Paris.
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Old September 29th, 2017, 12:16 PM   #2386
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Hello, do you agree, that it is RER A, station Charles de Gaulle - Étoile, in the early 80's?
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Yep, it is! (and indeed, seems to be taken in the 80s)
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Old October 16th, 2017, 10:51 AM   #2388
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New train liveries:









https://twitter.com/switchi93/status/919520008019042304
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Old October 16th, 2017, 10:54 AM   #2389
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Recent pics from the works at the viaduct in Marly-le-Roi:











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Pic of the Bécon-les-Bruyères station at night, seen from the new pedestrian overpass (Courbevoie end):



The overpass is now the only way to get from one side of the station to the other, as the subterranean path has been closed on the Asnières side for the rennovation of the buildings, entrances etc and the building of the new pavillion, which are now supposed to be completed by next June (initial date was this November).

The overpass looks really beautiful at night, now, without all the fences around the elevators, I need to get around to shoot my own pics.
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So the Île-de-France Mobilités changes are happening. I suppose this means the RER name will disappear after all.

http://www.ville-rail-transports.com...icher-en-bleu/
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Great updates on Paris RER trains
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Old October 17th, 2017, 12:00 PM   #2393
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Here is a very suggestive annimated video that shows what's happening with the viaduct in Marly-le-Roi:



The animation is easy to understand even if the narration is in French. The actual operation is even more complex than I had thought!

And some more pics:









https://twitter.com/GroupeSNCF/statu...09755539329024
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Coming back to the poor service on the Western branches dedicated to Cergy, Poissy etc. as discussed on the previous page, there are good news! First is that on December 1st, a new improved timetable for both Line A and L will become operational. Overnight testing of the new frequencies have been done during the Nuit Blanche.

Secondly, the Cergy station will be expanded with a new (and fourth) track that will be completed in about a year, and will help a huge lot to prevent delays and to potentially further increase the frequencies. This video shows how the management of the trains will improve: https://malignel.transilien.com/wp-c...leVoie.mp4?_=1

Detailed source article in French: https://malignel.transilien.com/2017...voie-de-cergy/
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And a nice historical pic:

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Petite Ceinture ferroviaire , La rue des Orteaux , Paris 1956

https://twitter.com/alcarbon68/statu...32566630137857
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Train delays in the entire network (both RATP and SNCF):



https://twitter.com/transportshaker/...58634851590144

Full colour segments represent january to june 2017 while the pointed segments just bellow represent the same period, but in 2016.
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GRRRRRRR



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The new Regio 2N trains for Line R:













https://maligner.transilien.com/2017...nouveau-train/

42 trains have been bought, costing the region an amount of 589M euro. The first five of these news trains have been allocated for line R to start in December.

Some of the equipments:

- air conditioning
- floor heating
- electrical outlets
- antigraphitti surfaces
- 25 video cameras per train etc
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The Poissy station, branded to show the richness of its heritage:





https://twitter.com/MichaelLeguebe/s...57292543139841







https://twitter.com/Actu_Transilien/...31093809221632
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Old October 31st, 2017, 12:48 AM   #2400
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Work on RER E extension caused a break in a water pipe. This flooded the RER A tunnel under Porte Maillot.
Traffic is suspended on RER A between Auber and La Défense.

https://twitter.com/laurentgallois/s...35069185712128
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