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Old November 13th, 2008, 07:12 PM   #341
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Old November 13th, 2008, 11:17 PM   #342
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So RER A and RER B have single-level rolling stock, while RER C, D & E have double-decker rolling stock? Or does it vary across all five lines?
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Old November 13th, 2008, 11:39 PM   #343
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RER A has both doble-deckers and single-level, RER B is exclusively single-level and RER C,D and E are exclusively double-decker (it's a guess)
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Old November 14th, 2008, 01:23 AM   #344
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You're almost right but the single decked Z5300, that have been withdrawn from the line C a few years ago, still operate peak hours services from Gare de Lyon on line D. Picture from www.zelpage.cz (this one is in Montaparnasse station on line N)

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Old November 14th, 2008, 05:24 AM   #345
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Wow that train looks old!
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Old November 14th, 2008, 09:55 AM   #346
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Wow that train looks old!
We could probably buy them and run them in Auckland!
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Old November 14th, 2008, 11:13 AM   #347
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I wouldn't be surprised. Didn't we haul a decent number of our trains out of museums?
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Old November 14th, 2008, 03:49 PM   #348
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Wow that train looks old!
They are not that old though as the latest were delivered in the mid 70'. Even when they were new they looked old. They are younger than the Ratp MS61 but the MS61 look much more modern.
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Old November 14th, 2008, 08:12 PM   #349
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And it is by far the worst rolling stock of Paris suburban system.

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Old November 15th, 2008, 12:43 PM   #350
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Perhaps I am the only one here but I quite like Z5300. But if I had to use it everyday I wouldn't think the same. They are dirtier than the other rolling stock because in maintenance workshops they are the last to be done, and SNCF workers often don't have the time to look after.
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Old November 15th, 2008, 01:30 PM   #351
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Are there any Z5300s taken out of service?
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Yes, in the workshop where I worked last summer, there were some waiting to be dismantled.
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Yes, in the workshop where I worked last summer, there were some waiting to be dismantled.
I hope they preserve a few of them in museums
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Old November 16th, 2008, 04:49 AM   #354
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Are there any plans to rip out those advertisements dangling from the ceiling? The station is an impressive spacious deep level single vault station and it would look much better without them.
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Old November 28th, 2008, 10:28 PM   #355
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We need new lines and new rolling stock and we lacks of money. I doubt that they will rip these.

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I'm pretty sure they will do it at some point. But maybe not now, eventhough they are redoing Chatelet-Les Halles.

It's part of the underground life to, everything must be renovated at some point and if you ask me, RER A's stations are by far the worst and most depressing stations in Paris.
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Old November 29th, 2008, 03:14 PM   #357
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The RER C underground stations are far worse and more depressing.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 11:59 AM   #358
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Yes absolutely. I caught an RER C train out to the Versailles Palace from Chatelet Les Halles I think and the station (and the trains that went through there) felt like I was either somehow in New York or I'd stepped back to the 70s.
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Old November 30th, 2008, 12:27 PM   #359
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Do Parisians refer to RER trains as "trains a banlieue"?
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Old November 30th, 2008, 01:59 PM   #360
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The RER C underground stations are far worse and most depressing.

True, I've totally forgotten about RER C stations, it kind of feel like they will never change.

@serdar : As far as I know we just call them RER like we say metro for the metro. The feeling, for me, being that the "trains de banlieue" are much more the Transilien trains, the ones that finishe in the big overground terminus stations. But I say that because I never used them, as a matter of fact I'm just used to the RER A and B, the most effective suburbian lines in Paris. So, maybe, my judgement is impaired. I also think that, in the collective mind, the "train de banlieue" refers more to an uneficient old and slow trains.

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