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Old December 11th, 2005, 04:07 AM   #21
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Some better looking pictures of the RER :


Magenta RER station.


Haussmann RER station.


Haussmann RER station.


Magenta RER station.
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Old December 11th, 2005, 04:27 AM   #22
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wow, nice stations
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Old December 11th, 2005, 05:33 AM   #23
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Nice, pictures Metro. I took the RER quite a bit when I was in Paris in March, but I only ever took the A line from Nanterre-ville (my hotel) into downtown. I also took alot of trips on the Metro, what an experience.
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Old December 11th, 2005, 11:53 AM   #24
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the new stations on the E line [inside the city: Hausmann st. Lazare and Magenta-Gare du Nord) are really huge, but the sings showing where to go are sometimes confusing and not god enough lighted. neverthenless i like that E-line for two reasons: the stations are wide, not as narrow as some metro stations and one can get very fast from St. Lazare to G.d.Nord, which would takemuch longer by metro (M3 or M9 and then changing for M4)
does anyone know if they will extend the E from St. Lazare westbound???
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Old December 11th, 2005, 06:13 PM   #25
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the new stations on the E line [inside the city: Hausmann st. Lazare and Magenta-Gare du Nord) are really huge, but the sings showing where to go are sometimes confusing and not god enough lighted. neverthenless i like that E-line for two reasons: the stations are wide, not as narrow as some metro stations and one can get very fast from St. Lazare to G.d.Nord, which would takemuch longer by metro (M3 or M9 and then changing for M4)
does anyone know if they will extend the E from St. Lazare westbound???
It is proposed to extend the line in direction of La Defense business district.
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Old December 11th, 2005, 09:30 PM   #26
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and when will it be built?
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Old December 11th, 2005, 09:33 PM   #27
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j'aime bcp ces trains.
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Old December 11th, 2005, 11:59 PM   #28
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and when will it be built?
It is only a proposal for now and as such, there's no calendar planned yet, but most likely between 2010 and 2015.
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Old December 13th, 2005, 01:53 PM   #29
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MS 61 renovated RER A

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Old December 14th, 2005, 12:44 AM   #30
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Thanks for those pics Minato Ku. Actually I like the new painting.





Here's a picture of the RER B taken in the latest days by St!ckyesman :

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Old December 14th, 2005, 01:17 AM   #31
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Le MS61 rénové c'est le chassis original avec une carrosserie neuve ?

beau boulot si c'est le cas.
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Old December 14th, 2005, 01:39 AM   #32
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I love stickyesman's pick, as I am very familiar with the rer B, this really shows how it is on the bad crowded days, with everybody sufocating inside and waiting for empty seats
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Old December 14th, 2005, 03:09 AM   #33
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Old December 14th, 2005, 06:24 PM   #34
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So many people taking the subway
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Old December 14th, 2005, 06:36 PM   #35
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It proves how inadapted is the subway network in Paris. 2 million people have 16 lines. And the other 8 million people have 5 lines...
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Old December 14th, 2005, 07:24 PM   #36
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It proves how inadapted is the subway network in Paris. 2 million people have 16 lines. And the other 8 million people have 5 lines...
that is not quite true
the metro and RER lines have different length, so they cannot be compared by their number
besides RER lines have many branches
RER A 3 branches on the west and 2 on the east
RER B 2 north / 2 south
RER C 4 west / 4 south-east
RER D 1 north / 3 south
RER E 1 west / 2 east
so in the reality there are much more RER lines
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The extensiveness and crowds in the Paris RER and metro for that matter are truly "urban." Paris mass-transit is so huge and impressive. Perhaps only Tokyo, NYC and London can rival it. I've been on the RER several times. Nothing beats arriving in Paris by train from some other French or European city at 8am. The intercity train would converge and pass near or adjacent to RER trains, especially at rail yards as you approach a train station. You'll see the double-decker RERs full, bringing people from suburbs all around Paris--people with their newspaper or ipods. It's quite impressive, especially for someone who is visiting from a country with little or almost no-rail.
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Quote:
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that is not quite true
the metro and RER lines have different length, so they cannot be compared by their number
besides RER lines have many branches
RER A 3 branches on the west and 2 on the east
RER B 2 north / 2 south
RER C 4 west / 4 south-east
RER D 1 north / 3 south
RER E 1 west / 2 east
so in the reality there are much more RER lines
Of course the RER lines are more extended, that's rather obvious otherwise it wouldn't serve the suburbs. Most of the branches you've talked about are divided really far actually. The line C for instance is divided in 2 branches in the south at a level which is outside Paris metropolitan area. Indeed, in the south, lines C and D are serving the countryside (something by the way I still fail to understand).

The problem remains the same. 5 lines are really few for the area we're talking about. You should realize that where there is the RER in Paris, there would be the tube in London. That means a dozen of lines instead of 5.

If the 5 lines are so overcrowded, it's exactly because of that reason. And the fact it's divided in many branches just increase the issue in the central portion. It doesn't solve it.
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Metropolitan, u may be right, so why paris and ile-de-france doesn't extend the RER system??? they should built new lines (just like the new E line) or the once in the past proposed line between st. lazare and montparnasse. for the E i think has already been done the worst part (in the city) so why do they wait to extend it via la defense?? i cannot get it.
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One thing that needs to be pointed out is that the none of suburban tracks of the RER are new. Before the RER, there was still a massive suburban network in Paris, but they all ended at the six major stations. The genoius of the RER was to put the stations underground and put the trains through the city.

There are still suburban lines that have not been upgrade to RER status. I have family who live in the northeastern suburb of Paris. Until recently, I had to take the metro to Gare de l'est and go above ground to get a train to the 'burbs. Since they built the E line, I have at least one more option. But the RER E uses the same tracks and stations once above ground.

Point of this ranting is that there is more train access to the suburbs that just the RER.
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