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Old July 1st, 2010, 11:08 PM   #581
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In any case, if they did became Transilien network trains, than they would be unconventionally Transilien in the fact they would cross the City of Paris because Transilien trains dead-end at train stations (or start, depending the direction) inside the City (except for one Transilien line that does not enter Paris at all). I don't see a reason why that would disqualify it as a Transilien personally. Really, in my opinion, Transilien should be cross-city too like RER. Combined, that would make for a huge, enormous commuter rail system.
Thank you for clearing up my confusion.
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 02:36 AM   #582
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Thank you for clearing up my confusion.
No problem, but I don't intend to be the legitimate person to reply to that. I'm sure someone else can give a better reason. That was just me thinking aloud, actually
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 04:32 AM   #583
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So, lines A, B and possibly E are more MRT-like.

I wonder why lines C and D have not become part of Transilien, as they are basically suburban lines.
Another reason why both lines are not qualified as Transilien is maybe because the SNCF saw the success of the RER lines run by the RATP and as a result decided to use the RER name to attract people to use these 2 lines.

Something identical can be seen with tram lines when the RATP opened the T2 line which is a suburban train line converted into a tram line because the level of ridership did not justify the use of trains.
When the SNCF saw the success of the line, they decided that future train lines that are projected to be converted into tram lines will be run by the SNCF.
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 07:37 PM   #584
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I wonder why lines C and D have not become part of Transilien, as they are basically suburban lines.
I caught RER C to Versailles the other day and the platforms of the stations clearly had Transilien branding as well as some trains.

As I understand it the brand Transilien is applied to all railways lines, suburban and RER operated by SNCF in the greater Paris region. Indeed the suburban lines now use and advertise line letters just like RER, so the distinction between the two seems to be bluring quite a lot.
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 08:12 PM   #585
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Old July 2nd, 2010, 09:52 PM   #586
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This is true.
All the suburban lines of the SNCF (including RER) are Transilien but in the common usage it only refers to non RER suburban lines.
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Old July 3rd, 2010, 10:36 PM   #587
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This is true.
All the suburban lines of the SNCF (including RER) are Transilien but in the common usage it only refers to non RER suburban lines.
Well, I would say that in the common usage Transilien doesn't refer to many things. For the average Parisian what is not a RER is simply a "train de banlieue" (outskirt train). This is also the way they are refered to by the displays in the main rail stations and the Métro rather than "Transilien".
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Old July 4th, 2010, 12:31 AM   #588
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Old July 8th, 2010, 07:18 AM   #589
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realmente me encanta el sistema de transporte francés, el RER es un ejemplo de un buen sistema ferroviario.

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Old July 8th, 2010, 11:15 PM   #590
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I want to see the future map I saw years ago made reality. Especially I want to get rid of that tunnel of the * and bring back the old plans...

*If they didn't already got rid of it due to crisis.
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Old July 8th, 2010, 11:51 PM   #591
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I want to see the future map I saw years ago made reality. Especially I want to get rid of that tunnel of the * and bring back the old plans...
It would be bad.
The actual plan is better, building a tunnel between Haussmann Saint Lazare and Nanterre la Folie and continue overground via new and older track.
The old plan planned to use the already overcrowded Saint Lazare tracks

With the RER E in tunnel the tracks of Saint Lazare would have less train, allowing an increase of other services.

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It is unlikely, in the three routes proposed all are a tunnel between Haussmann Saint Lazare and la Defense/Nanterre la Folie.
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Old July 9th, 2010, 11:11 AM   #592
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Mantes la Jolie?
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Old July 9th, 2010, 11:52 AM   #593
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It is unlikely, in the three routes proposed all are a tunnel between Haussmann Saint Lazare and la Defense/Nanterre la Folie.
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Mantes la Jolie?
No, I mean Nanterre la Folie.
Nanterre la Folie is a freight railway station near la Défense.
It is where will emerge the RER E tunnel.

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Old July 21st, 2010, 02:18 AM   #594
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The new livery of the refurbished MI79




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Ugly I hope they will change it.
Hopefully they heard our complain about the livery.
The new version is better.




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Old July 21st, 2010, 03:40 AM   #595
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Indeed. I like it how it is.
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Old July 21st, 2010, 08:35 PM   #596
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Old July 22nd, 2010, 10:01 PM   #597
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Nanterre la Folie is a freight railway station near la Défense.
It is where will emerge the RER E tunnel.
We don't see it the sattelite view that I posted, Nanterre la Folie is close to Nanterre Préfecture RER A station.
These two stations will be connected in 2020.


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Old July 22nd, 2010, 10:17 PM   #598
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Nanterre Préfecture station is currently under renovation to be more accessible.
Three new entrances are being build.

A schematic draw of Nanterre Préfecture in 2012


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Old July 29th, 2010, 07:31 PM   #599
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Video showing the Inclined Elevators in two RER station.
The elevators are not particulary interesting but the huge space of the stations is.

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^ Ha, like a funicular. Cool.
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