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Old September 22nd, 2010, 09:00 PM   #621
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 05:49 AM   #622
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Have there been any updates on the MI-09 or the refurbished MI-79 trains?
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 02:15 PM   #623
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BTW, the most part of this section (opened as RER C in the late 80s) is a part of the former "Ligne d'Auteuil" (Gare d'Auteuil-Boulogne <-> Gare de Pont Cardinet).
The ligne d'Auteuil was the last part of the Petite Ceinture still open till the mid 80s... I took that line several times when I was a child and I remember it very well because it looked like the old small railways between small villages in the countryside, and that was quite fun (tiny trains, tiny stations etc) !
Very interesting post, parcdesprinces! What occurred to me is that the stations that were reopened as part of Ligne C all have been covered, whereas they were in an open cut before the reconstruction took place.
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Old September 23rd, 2010, 03:20 PM   #624
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Don't forget that this part run in a very weathy part of Paris.
The local residents can be very annoying about noise requirements.

This has delayed the construction of this branch (called VMI, Montmorency valley - Invalides) and this has considerably reduced its speeds (40 km/h instead of 80 km/h in the underground part.

Because this line is a branch of the RER C, it has very low frequencies (4 tph in off peak) so it is not very attractive.
The inner Paris stations with no metro transfers are among the last used of this branch.

There are projects to improve the frequencies and speed of this line.
According me, the best would be to separate the VMI of the RER C and to close some inner Paris stations.

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Old September 23rd, 2010, 08:52 PM   #625
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Minato,

Can you recommend good books that cover the construction, and development of the RER system?
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Old September 24th, 2010, 11:16 PM   #626
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In english I coudn't recommend any books.
In french, "La Saga du RER" of Christian Gerondeau was quite good.

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Old September 25th, 2010, 11:40 AM   #627
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Can you recommend good books that cover the construction, and development of the RER system?
There is an English language book called the "RER Handbook". Bit old not but covers exactly what you want. There are also similar books for the Metro and TGV.
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Old September 26th, 2010, 06:21 AM   #628
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Very interesting post, parcdesprinces! What occurred to me is that the stations that were reopened as part of Ligne C all have been covered, whereas they were in an open cut before the reconstruction took place.
Thanks !

You're right about covered stations, except for Avenue Henri Martin (covered in the early 70s: almost 20 years before the RER).
BTW, if you look at a map of Paris, you can see that the Haussmannian boulevards folow these (former) "open-cut" railways=The well-known urban planning of Paris !

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Don't forget that this part run in a very weathy part of Paris.
The local residents can be very annoying about noise requirements.

This has delayed the construction of this branch (called VMI, Montmorency valley - Invalides) and this has considerably reduced its speeds (40 km/h instead of 80 km/h in the underground part.
I agree about delays and additional cost for this part of RER C, but, you're a bit unfair, 'cause as far I know, all the open-air stations, built below ground level in Paris-centre, were covered when it was possible/needed/asked by the neighbors (whatever the district, wealthy or not, "annoying residents" or not): Boulainvilliers, Champs de Mars, Alma, Invalides, Pte de Clichy, St-Ouen, Bd. Victor, Bibliothèque/Bd. Masséna...

As a matter of fact, all RER C stations of inner-Paris are covered.....except Javel. (+ Kennedy-Radio France station, which is partially covered despite it is above ground level) !
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Old September 26th, 2010, 08:48 PM   #629
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Ok I admit that I am a bit unfair in this case.
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Old October 3rd, 2010, 09:50 PM   #631
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La Courneuve Aubervilliers
The station is next to the A86 highway

Here the work for the extention, here there will not have a metro station but the end of the tunnel.
Anyway don't worry a later extension is planned to this station and even further.










The train was really overcrowded.
The service during this strike is quite good but the train before was canceled for technical problem and this train was 15 minute late due at the high number of passengers.

Gare du Nord surface platform
The RER B is divided in two during strike, the southern RER section terminate on undergound platform and the northern SNCF section on surface platforms.
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Old October 25th, 2010, 06:58 PM   #634
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Old October 26th, 2010, 03:25 PM   #635
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What's that contraption to the right supposed to be? Is that the highway?

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Yes it is the highway but it has walls and roof. More and more urban freeways are covered.
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Yes it is the highway but it has walls and roof. More and more urban freeways are covered.
Why are they covered ?
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To limit the noise level for people living around ...
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It must be expensive to build those walls. They're HUGE
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Much cheaper than in the rich areas though: in the very affluent western suburb this highway (Paris second ring road or A86) is totaly underground, between Rueil and Versailles.
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