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Old December 5th, 2010, 02:25 PM   #681
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Old December 5th, 2010, 03:20 PM   #682
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How much do fares cost on the RER?
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Old December 5th, 2010, 04:35 PM   #683
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Unlike the metro, on the RER the cost of a journey depends on the zones through which you travel. A ride within the city of Paris and it's close suburbs (zone 1 and 2) will cost you the same price as the metro: 1,70e no matter the length of the journey. There are 6 zones in the Ile-de-France region (used to be 8, but zones 7 and 8 are now considered as zone 6). The fares go from 1,70e to approx 15e, this last fare being the longest journey troughout the region.



Note that some metro lines go beyond zone 2. For example La Defense metro stop is geographically in zone 3, but all metro stops have a zone 1 and 2 fare. On the other side, the RER stop is in zone 3 geographically and fare wise. So it will cost you more to use the RER to go there.
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Old December 5th, 2010, 05:41 PM   #684
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Not bad, are there monthly passes though?
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Old December 5th, 2010, 05:50 PM   #685
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Yeah, here are the monthly pass prices that can be found on the RATP website:

zones 1 - 2 : 60e40
zones 1 - 3 : 78e20
zones 1 - 4 : 95e50
zones 1 - 5 : 109e90
zones 1 - 6 : 123e60

zones 2 - 3 : 57e30
zones 2 - 4 : 72e50
zones 2 - 5 : 86e30
zones 2 - 6 : 97e70

zones 3 - 4 : 55e90
zones 3 - 5 : 69e00
zones 3 - 6 : 79e60

zones 4 - 5 : 55e70
zones 4 - 6 : 62e40
zones 5 - 6 : 54e90
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Old December 5th, 2010, 11:48 PM   #686
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Unlike the metro, on the RER the cost of a journey depends on the zones through which you travel. A ride within the city of Paris and it's close suburbs (zone 1 and 2) will cost you the same price as the metro: 1,70e no matter the length of the journey. There are 6 zones in the Ile-de-France region (used to be 8, but zones 7 and 8 are now considered as zone 6). The fares go from 1,70e to approx 15e, this last fare being the longest journey troughout the region.



Note that some metro lines go beyond zone 2. For example La Defense metro stop is geographically in zone 3, but all metro stops have a zone 1 and 2 fare. On the other side, the RER stop is in zone 3 geographically and fare wise. So it will cost you more to use the RER to go there.
What are the other lines pictured in this illustration? It looks confusing.
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Old December 6th, 2010, 12:13 AM   #687
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The other lines are the Transilien lines (H,J,K,L,N,P,R,U).
They are exactly like RER lines except that they are fully operated by SNCF and they all end up in terminal stations instead of passing through Paris like the RER lines. There is a thread dedicated to the transilien lines in the "railways" section of SSC. Weird, because to me they are just like RER lines.
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Old December 6th, 2010, 12:37 PM   #688
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The other lines are the Transilien lines (H,J,K,L,N,P,R,U).
I would use the name "network" instead of "line".

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They are exactly like RER lines except that they are fully operated by SNCF and they all end up in terminal stations instead of passing through Paris like the RER lines. There is a thread dedicated to the transilien lines in the "railways" section of SSC. Weird, because to me they are just like RER lines.
There are still some big difference depending the line, I admit that the RER C and D are very similar with some Transilien service but RATP RER (line A and B) is nothing like that.
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Old December 6th, 2010, 01:59 PM   #689
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There are still some big difference depending the line, I admit that the RER C and D are very similar with some Transilien service but RATP RER (line A and B) is nothing like that.
Why ? I don't understand what you mean here....

Actually, to me, the transilien is like the RER and a lot of people uses it like that too ? so why it is so different to you ?

I already asekd but what the transilien is in another topic, both should be together, don't you think ?
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I think what Minato Ku means is that RER A and B work like a metro-system, and the others work like suburbian rail.
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Old December 6th, 2010, 02:52 PM   #691
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That's right.

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I already asekd but what the transilien is in another topic, both should be together, don't you think ?
Actually, I created the "Paris suburban system" thread before the "Paris RER".
Until the creation of this RER thread, both system (RER and non RER commuter train) were on Paris suburban rail.

Both threads are too big to allow any merge but the "Railway" subforum is maybe a bad place for the "Paris suburban system" topic.
If somebody want it, I could ask a moderator to move the "Paris suburban system" thread inside the "Subways and Urban Transport" subforum.

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I spy the old RATP logo on that train :P
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Old December 6th, 2010, 04:54 PM   #693
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I spy the old RATP logo on that train :P
The MI79 was produced between 1980 and 1983 at the time the RATP still had its old logo.
The lively of train didn't change since then.
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Old December 7th, 2010, 02:05 PM   #694
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The first MI79 refurbished run today.







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Still don't like it that much. But is it just me or is the black re-done? The black on page 30 looks like grey. this looks better!
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They should have at least put some longitudinal seating in. Maybe an arrangement more similar to the Metropolitan Line's S stock.
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Overall, the refurbishment is pretty good
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Old December 7th, 2010, 07:17 PM   #698
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Still don't like it that much. But is it just me or is the black re-done? The black on page 30 looks like grey. this looks better!
The brightness and the quality of a picture can easily turn black to gray.

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They should have at least put some longitudinal seating in. Maybe an arrangement more similar to the Metropolitan Line's S stock.
I agree.
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The first MI79 refurbished run today.







WOW!! It looks nice afterall! I really like the colors of the exterior of the trains. The interior is too flashy... But when you compare it with the old interior it is clear that this is way better.
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WOW!! It looks nice afterall! I really like the colors of the exterior of the trains. The interior is too flashy... But when you compare it with the old interior it is clear that this is way better.
Yeah, there is a huge difference!!
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