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Old May 13th, 2011, 07:47 AM   #821
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I forget about BART.
A lot of people do, despite it's influence on modern metro systems.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 03:22 PM   #822
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I've never rode BART, but seen the system in photos and movies lol.
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Old May 13th, 2011, 05:46 PM   #823
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A lot of people do, despite it's influence on modern metro systems.
I was actually referring to group of cities that were expanding their heavy rail systems. I forget about BART's expansion through San Francisco.
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Old May 14th, 2011, 08:56 AM   #824
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I was actually referring to group of cities that were expanding their heavy rail systems. I forget about BART's expansion through San Francisco.
It is expanding it's heavy rail system, the first phase of the San Jose extension is under construction right now and funding for the second phase has been lined up.
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Old May 15th, 2011, 07:35 PM   #825
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Old May 15th, 2011, 11:01 PM   #826
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I wonder why RER E is operated by SNCF rather than RATP.
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Old May 15th, 2011, 11:22 PM   #827
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How good is RER E and Transilien?
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Old May 15th, 2011, 11:37 PM   #828
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I wonder why RER E is operated by SNCF rather than RATP.
Because the RER E is a project of the SNCF and it use the RFF track.

In the end of the 1980's, the RER A had some overcrowding issues, two projects were proposed to ease the RER A.
-the RATP with a metro line between Genevilliers and Maison Blanche called Meteor
-the SNCF with a RER line called Eole (a tunnel between Saint Lazare and Gare du Nord/Est).

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Old May 15th, 2011, 11:57 PM   #829
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Are there still plans to construct an F line?
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Old May 16th, 2011, 12:02 AM   #830
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No absolutely nothing.
Excepted the extension of the RER E, the only RER project that we have is a new tunnel between Gare du Nord and Chatelet les Halles.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 12:07 AM   #831
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Old May 16th, 2011, 12:07 AM   #832
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No absolutely nothing.
Excepted the extension of the RER E, the only RER project that we have is a new tunnel between Gare du Nord and Chatelet les Halles.
Hopefully, the extensions bring Line E to the same standards as Line A and Line B.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 12:24 AM   #833
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One thing I have learned from using mass transit in multiple cities and urban areas, as well as reading-up on the details of different systems is that classification is very difficult. One cannot really create categories and attempt to put systems like the RER, BART, etc. into any given category. The RER is very unique in my opinion as is any other system like the BART. On top of that, the RER seems to be managed by 2 different authorities so that complicates its classification even further. Instead, it's more imporant to know what a system does, and the RER -is- and allows you -to-

- Travel between 2 points within Paris with few stops (similar to Express service vs Local).

- Travel to and from the City and suburban communities

- Stations are usually underground inside Paris, surface/elevated outside

- Some lines have high frequency service like the Metro (RER A and B), while others are more like a true suburban train in which you may want to know the timetable in advance, unless you want to wait a long time (mainly the RER C...the RER D and E seem more frequent than the RER C but I could be wrong). The A and B are very frequent unless it's very late at night, when the RER in general becomes less frequent. But the RER A and B is so frequent nobody looks at the time tables during the day because it's like Metro service)

- Several RER stations inside Paris have direct underground transfer to Metro service just like transferring from Metro to Metro--some have long, underground corridors. However, regardless of this, you need a different ticket for the RER (the RER is zone-based) unless you plan to travel completely within Zone 1 (City of Paris).

- In a few places inside Paris, the RER is the only station in the immediate vicinity so it is used like the local Metro station by some. This is not unreasonable because all 5 RER lines have inside the City a minimum of 2 connector stations (with the Metro and/or other RER line, this on top of surface connections with the Bus), and every RER line has a minimum of 2 hub stations, where more options are available.
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Yeah, that's what I found a bit perplexing. That one can't use the same ticket for the RER and Metro.

I wonder if there will ever be plans to integrate ticketing for all the transportation systems in Ile-de-France, akin to Verkehrsverbund Berlin-Brandenburg.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 01:02 AM   #835
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You can use the same ticket for the RER and the metro.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 01:05 AM   #836
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You can use the same ticket for the RER and the metro.
Oh, my bad.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 01:29 AM   #837
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The standart ticket is called Ticket T



Ticket T allows.
-The use of the metro
-The use of the RER within the zone 1
-The use of the bus and tramway
-The interchange between the metro and RER
-The interchange between several bus line within a time limit of 90 minutes
-The interchange between between the bus and the tramway within a time limit of 90 minutes.

But you cannot use the same ticket for a transfer between the bus or tramway and the metro or RER.
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Old May 16th, 2011, 02:16 AM   #838
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WOW, THAT TICKET HAS MANY POSSIBILITIES TO USE.

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Old May 16th, 2011, 02:52 AM   #839
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I loved the RER B video with the refurbished stock in action. Real nice
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Old May 16th, 2011, 10:36 AM   #840
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You can use the same ticket for the RER and the metro.
Whilst of course you are technically 100% right, it is not like you can get a standard metro ticket and ride the RER to where ever you like. With a metro ticket you can only do zone 1 on the RER.
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