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Old April 3rd, 2012, 11:57 PM   #1061
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Klépierre (commercial real estate company) invested 1.8 time more than the SNCF.

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MI84 of the RER A on the right.

Refurbished MI79 of the RER B arriving

Doors of the MI79 opened and doors of the MI84 closed

Refurbished MI79
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Old April 4th, 2012, 12:57 AM   #1062
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Because there is always at least a third language.
Spanish, German or Italian.
Sure. But while Italian at the Gare de Lyon, German at the Gare du Nord and Gare de l'Est and Spanish at the Gare Montparnasse is self-explaining, Spanish in St Lazare isn't.
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Old April 4th, 2012, 01:30 AM   #1063
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Saint Lazare doesn't have any international train.
Outside Paris area, the station only serves Upper and Lower Normandy regions, while for Normandy English is pretty obviously other languages are not.
As we need a third language for the signage, I think they took the most spoken "Spanish".
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Old April 4th, 2012, 01:34 AM   #1064
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Sure. But while Italian at the Gare de Lyon, German at the Gare du Nord and Gare de l'Est and Spanish at the Gare Montparnasse is self-explaining, Spanish in St Lazare isn't.
This is not only about geography. In a lot of stations and trains you'll see signs in italian rather than spanish, no matter if you're in the north of France or next to the spanish border. This is because of history: Italy, Germany and France were among the first members of the UE (ECSC at this time). Spain joined the UE much later.
In my opinion this is a good thing because Italians are among the worst in foreign languages, even worse than the French
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Old April 4th, 2012, 10:38 AM   #1065
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i don't understand this st lazre story

Only the creation of commercial area? what about renovation of station itself ,the train quays seem old no?

Where i can find pics of gare de l'est with all the works made for the renovation for TGV est?
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Old April 4th, 2012, 03:10 PM   #1066
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Saint Lazare carry 450,000 people and has 1,600 trains every day.
Closing a platform to renovate it is very complicated.
Work are not over for Saint Lazare, while the interior is done, the tracks and platform are also planned to be renovated.
They should also find place for the new high speed train between Normandy and Paris.

Gare de l'Est.
Because of the RER E, the Gare de l'Est lost most of its traffic.








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Old April 4th, 2012, 06:21 PM   #1067
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Sure. But while Italian at the Gare de Lyon, German at the Gare du Nord and Gare de l'Est and Spanish at the Gare Montparnasse is self-explaining, Spanish in St Lazare isn't.
Spanish is the second most spoken language in Paris due to thousand of immigrants from Spain and South America.
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Old April 4th, 2012, 10:56 PM   #1068
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The number of visitor matter more than the number of spanish speaking people living inside the city for the choice of the language in the signage.
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The new building opened.







RER B platforms seen from the building




The walkway is not yet open.







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Old April 4th, 2012, 11:08 PM   #1069
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Old April 5th, 2012, 02:57 PM   #1070
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Massy-Palaiseau
The new building opened.
Is this the same station that was delayed for a while? I know you posted photos of a new station by which the opening had been delayed. Just not sure if this is the same station.
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Old April 5th, 2012, 11:00 PM   #1071
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Yes it is the same station.
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Gare d’Austerlitz will see an even bigger project than Saint Lazare.

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Jean Nouvel to renovate train hub in heart of Paris
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PARIS – The historic train station, Gare d’Austerlitz, is on board to be renovated by Jean Nouvel starting this year. The 600 million euro project, designed to upgrade the station and its surroundings, is projected to continue through 2020.

The Gare d’Austerlitz is one of Paris’s six main train stations. Originally built in 1840, it serves two metro lines, one Paris regional rail, and multiple national trains to the southwest of France. With 23 million passengers per year, the SNCF, France’s railway company, hopes that the new train station will not only facilitate transportation via new high speed lines, but also rejuvenate the neighborhood.

Christian Brézet, director of the project spearheaded by the Gares & Connexions, a branch of SNCF in charge of developing 3000 French stations, shared details with SmartPlanet. During the renovations, traffic will continue across the railways. Buildings dating to the 1860s, classified as historical monuments since 1997, will be preserved and integrated into the new design, conceived by architects Jean Nouvel and Jean-Marie Duthilleul. For example, 200 million euros will be dedicated to renovating the glass roof in the grand hall where hot air balloons were manufactured during the 1870 siege of Paris.

The current train station is not the easiest to navigate. Brézet said that a large part of the renovation will be opening up and easing transportation within the station itself. “The renovation of the station will integrate the development of a system that will increase travelers’ comfort and also aid in finding their way in the station,” he said. Improved access to train platforms, including new escalators and hallways, should make navigating the often confusing station easier.

Plans also include reorganize the courtyards, creating a grand staircase towards the river, easing access to the adjacent hospital and offering better roads for light traffic including taxis, bikes, and pedestrians. Construction crews will also destroy several SNCF buildings currently on the site in favor of new office buildings and green spaces.

More than just easing transportation, Nouvel and his team hope to rejuvenate the neighborhood around the train station, which is located on the bank of the Seine. The adjacent Jardin des Plantes and Natural History Museum are important landmarks but few people are drawn to the streets around the Gare d’Austerlitz. The renovation will eventually draw new stores, cafés, and businesses into the neighborhood. “One of the principal objectives of the renovations is based on the idea of creating an Austerlitz quarter, a train station quarter,” Brézet said.

While the stairway towards Avenue Pierre-Mendès France should be constructed as soon as 2013, many plans for the new station remain long-term. Gare d’Austerlitz will welcome a new high speed TGV train to Lyon by 2025, making it an even more important transport hub. Brézet said that SNCF is hoping for 50 million travelers per year by 2030, thanks in part to 15,000 more suburban trains.

Certain plans are still undefined, but Brézet said that as part of the Grand Paris urban expansion project, the Gare d’Austerlitz could be a connection point for the new line linking the airport at Orly. “Different propositions are being studied and discussed by the public to consider different ways to connect with the Massy-Orly line, creating a Parisian antenna for this new network,” he said.
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Demolition began few month ago.
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Looks like a very promising project
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Old April 6th, 2012, 01:18 AM   #1073
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thanks minato ku for gare de l'est explanations

Lille flandres will see similar renovation to implement commercial zone too.
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Versailles-Chantier







A TER (I don't know of what Region) bound to Montparnasse, also notice the blue double decker RER C on the other platform.

Bound to Montparnasse and coming from Rambouillet.

Bound to La Verrière and coming from La Défense
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Love those sleek new trains.

And the STIF livery is towards the bottom of the trains. I hope that this is what we will see of the future Metro trains. Not like the MI 09.




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This red new livery is only for Transilien SNCF stock owned/co-financed by the STIF authority.

For the Mi09, well its a rolling stock the only RATP ordered, not the SNCF, so the livery only display the colours of the RATP which operates the trains and the STIF which co-financed them.

For metro trains, they have yet to show any exterior sign of grey STIF colour (and hope its gona stay that way, don't want to see that grey destroy the green RATP livery).

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A new lively is planned for the MF01 on line 9, unfortunately.

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This red new livery is only for Transilien SNCF stock owned/co-financed by the STIF authority.

For the Mi09, well its a rolling stock the only RATP ordered, not the SNCF, so the livery only display the colours of the RATP which operates the trains and the STIF which co-financed them.

For metro trains, they have yet to show any exterior sign of grey STIF colour (and hope its gona stay that way, don't want to see that grey destroy the green RATP livery).

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What I was referring to was in respects to the STIF grey livery on RATP vehicles/trains. We already see this co-branding on RATP buses which the STIF purchased or had some degree of financing for. This co-branding is also existent on the MI 09 with the STIF grey on the trains. The refurbished MI 79 on Line B is a co-brand between all three agencies (SNCF, STIF, RATP).

Because the MF01 on Line 9 was a joint purchase between the RATP & STIF, as Minato mentioned, there will be a co-branding on those trains. Also the MP 05 for Line 14 will likely be co-branded.
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