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Old May 2nd, 2012, 09:55 PM   #1101
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Because of the RER E, most of suburban traffic of Gare de l'Est was transfered to Magenta and Haussmann Saint Lazare.
Now Gare de l'Est, only serve the outer suburbs.

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Old May 3rd, 2012, 03:31 PM   #1102
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I see.

I would guess that traffic at St. Lazare will further increase should the RER E be extended to La Defense?
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 09:20 PM   #1103
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Traffic at the overground station will probably decrease, as passengers coming from the "Mantes par Poissy" line will go through the underground station, and as people now using transilien L to go to La Défense will find RER E faster and running more often. Moreover, people coming from "Mantes par Poissy" line will have two new very convenient connections at La Défense and Porte Maillot, fewer will go all the way to St Lazare.
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Old May 3rd, 2012, 10:11 PM   #1104
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But in my opinion, the traffic from other lines will increase, so Saint Lazare will not be less busy than today with the RER E.

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Old May 8th, 2012, 02:36 PM   #1105
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Question,

When I was doing a search on Youtube for videos of the RER, I stumbled upon this video of a locomotive in the corridor "Petite Ceinture". What was the purpose of this rail line, and why was it abandoned?

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Old May 8th, 2012, 02:55 PM   #1106
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The "petite Ceinture "inner belt" is a circle railway line around inner Paris, it opened between 1852 and 1869.
With the metro, this line became less and less popular and it was closed to passengers traffic in 1934.
Its track were still in use for freight train until the early 1990's.

One section of the line remain open in the west of inner Paris between between Porte de Saint Ouen and Avenue Henri Martin as part of the RER C.
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Old May 8th, 2012, 03:06 PM   #1107
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Thx for the vid.

Minato Ku beats me. But here is a bit more of history

There is mainly 3 parts of "petite ceinture" (inner belt). First you have the "ligne d'Auteuil" which was build around 1850 for passenger. This line went from Saint Lazare station to the city of Auteuil.
The "rive droite" part (Right Bank) was build for freight and military reasons. It connects the major terminals of the rail companies in Paris: Saint Lazare network (Batignolles freight yard), Gare du nord (la chapelle) and gare de l'est, then gare de Lyon (Bercy) and gare d'Austerlitz (Ivry freight yard). Moreover it was inside the fortification of Paris. This part was financed by the state.
The last part is the "rive gauche" part (left bank). It completes the loop and connects also the Montparnasse network (not really used for freight since the ouest company used the batignolles freight yard). This part was build in 1870.

Around 1900 Paris build its metro network. With faster lines, going to more central area, the ridership on the ceinture line decreased. The line closed to passenger traffic around 1934 and for freight used in 1990.
Still, a part of Auteuil line is used by rer C (along with the champ de mars link). You still had a bus ("PC bus" was its name) that goes along the same road. Around 2000 there was plan to reactivate the left bank part but the city of Paris opted for a tramway instead.

The platform is still mostly intact. But with the "tramway des maréchaux" that is now being build, I don't believe that it will be reused. Instead I think that they will convert it to a pedestrian/bike path.
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Interesting, thanks for the info!
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Old May 8th, 2012, 06:56 PM   #1109
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I believe you mentioned somewhere that Gare de l'est lost some of its surface rail traffic over the years. How many lines depart from Gare de l'est?
Well actually Gare de l'est actually saw an increase in traffic because of the opening of the LGV Est:

-TGVs go to Strasbourg, Metz, Nancy, Reims, Colmar, Mulhouse from Gare de l'est for domestic services.

-TGVs go to Stuttgart and Munich/München in Germany and sometimes Frankfurt when there is a problem ICE 3 trains from the Deutsch Bahn (German National Railway Company).

ICE3 trains from the DB are used on Paris Est-Frankfurt services.

And about other lines you have as minato Ku said, trains from the Transilien P lines, you have some domestic long distance trains (Corail Intercités/ TER=Train Express Regional) going to France's eastern regions.
there is also 2 Night Trains with Sleeping cars departing Gare de l'est too:

-One train is run by the german rail company under the CityNightLine brand (the brand for night trains services of the Deutsch Bahn) with German sleeping cars, going to Berlin/Hamburg/Munchen and Innsbruck in Austria.

-the other one is the Night train for Moscow with Russian sleeping cars.

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Old May 8th, 2012, 07:27 PM   #1110
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On the other hand gare de l'est lost some trains due to the opening of the lgv Rhin-Rhone. Tgv for Belford/Mulhouse now depart at gare de lyon...
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Well actually Gare de l'est actually saw an increase in traffic because of the opening of the LGV Est:
An increase of traffic compared to the mid 2000's but the ridership is still lower than what it was before 1999.
The LGV Est is not enough to compensate the loss of most of the suburban traffic.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 01:06 AM   #1112
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Interlaken is a small town in Switzerland.
I don't know why there is the coat of arms of Interlaken on this MI84.
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Old May 11th, 2012, 04:01 PM   #1113
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Old May 13th, 2012, 10:23 AM   #1114
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Old May 15th, 2012, 09:49 AM   #1115
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Wow, that sure looks shiny!
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Old May 15th, 2012, 04:14 PM   #1116
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Wait till the grime starts to settle in though....... :/
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Old May 16th, 2012, 10:00 PM   #1117
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Le RER C s'habille en Versailles

Depuis ce matin, Versailles est, en quelque sorte, monté à bord du RER C.

Les voyageurs dont de nombreux touristes auront désormais au-dessus de leur tête une reproduction du plafond de la Galerie des Glaces, une treille bucolique, et d'autres lieux emblématiques ou plus intimes du monument. Les six voitures de la rame ont été parées de décors versaillais par pelliculage, comme on colle souvent désormais de la publicité sur des bus..

D'ici la fin de l'année, quatre rames desservant le château seront redécorées dans le même esprit. Cette décoration est conçue pour une durée de deux ans.

Pour fêter ce partenariat inédit entre la SNCF et le château de Versailles, un voyage inaugural de ce premier train "Versailles" etait organisé ce mercredi matin 16 mai entre la gare Bibliothèque nationale François Mitterrand et celle de Versailles-Rive-Gauche.
Catherine Pégard, présidente de l'établissement public du château de Versailles, Guillaume Pepy, président de la SNCF, Jean-Paul Huchon, président de la région Ile-de-France sont montés à bord du train.





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Old May 17th, 2012, 04:33 AM   #1118
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Anyone want to take a guess as to how long these murals will remain intact before they are vandalized?
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Old May 19th, 2012, 07:07 PM   #1119
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Old May 22nd, 2012, 02:29 AM   #1120
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