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Old October 6th, 2012, 12:51 AM   #1181
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Old October 7th, 2012, 03:55 AM   #1182
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New livery of the Z2N
I noticed in second 0:47 that there is a sign not to use the bathroom when the train is stoped at stations.
Do this trains still have those old toilets that are just a hole to the rail line?
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Old October 7th, 2012, 04:12 AM   #1183
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Old October 7th, 2012, 06:14 PM   #1184
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I noticed in second 0:47 that there is a sign not to use the bathroom when the train is stoped at stations.
Do this trains still have those old toilets that are just a hole to the rail line?
I don't know, I have never used the toilet on suburban train.

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Old October 10th, 2012, 09:53 PM   #1185
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Châtelet-Les-Halles
MI79 of the RER B southbound

RER D northbound, RER B northbound and RER A westbound platforms

Z2N of the RER D, some RER D comming from or going the south service have Châtelet-les-Halles as terminal station because of the congestion on the tunnel between Châtelet and Gare du Nord. The line B and D use the smae track on this tunnel, a new one is planned.



MI79 of the RER B northbound arriving...

...the second part of train is refurbished.

MI79 (RER B) southbound and MI09 (RER A) eastbound leaving the station
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Old October 15th, 2012, 09:41 AM   #1186
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How are the rehabilitation works of the RER B going? Are the non stop CDG-Gare du Nord trains still in operation during the duration of the works?
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Old October 15th, 2012, 10:32 PM   #1187
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It depends the moment of the work. For the moment, the traffic is normal with express and local services.
During the last August, every trains stopped at every stations.

Anyway by September 2013, the non stop services to CDG will be suppressed.
This is one of the major points of the renovation of the northern RER B.
In the future every train will stop at every station in northern suburb to increase the frequencies.

The traffic of the RER B increased by 30% the last decade and the current traffic configuration is no longer possible.
Most of the time we have empty non trains to CDG airport and crowded local trains.
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Old October 15th, 2012, 11:54 PM   #1188
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I'm sorry to hear that. I realise the vast majority of traffic is not CDG related but the northern stretch of the RER B feels extremely unsafe at night. (which is when I arrive in Paris most often). Express trains were a great way of mitigating that perceived risk. I hope Ratp takes steps to mitigate that in the later hours of the night. Surely transport police patrolling certain trains on parts of the line can't be that expensive in the grand scheme of things.

Would a CDG-La Defense direct non stop train work in your opinion?
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Old October 16th, 2012, 01:44 AM   #1189
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The northern side of the RER B is operated by the SNCF.

The CDG Express is in planned to remplace the express service of the RER B.
It will be more costly and will terminate in a central terminal instead of taking the track of the RER B in Central Paris.
The bad thing is that it will not open before 2017.



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Would a CDG-La Defense direct non stop train work in your opinion?
In my opinion, it would be more costly to built than useful. We would have to build new track in a densely built area for not many passengers.
The center of Paris still a much important business place than La Defense.
Central Paris has an easy link to the whole metropolitan area while La Defense is more west based.
So, I don't believe that a direct link between CDG and la Defense would be successful.

There is a line in project between la Defense and CDG but is not an express aiport line.
It is an heavy metro line with a dozen of stop between la Defense and CDG and it will make a sort of ring around inner Paris.


It is not a real circular line, it will work like the Oedo line in Tokyo between CDG (Mesnil-Amelot) and Le Bourget passing by La Defense, Villejuif...etc the line will serve two time Le Bourget.
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Old October 16th, 2012, 09:40 AM   #1190
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A dedicated service would work. I presume it would be similar to the Heathrow Express which is a very nice service in my opinion. How come they chose Gare de l'Est instead of Gare du Nord? Is it because of a lack of capacity at Nord?
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Old October 16th, 2012, 10:50 AM   #1191
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Exactly, Gare de l'Est still has plenty of capacity since its lost much its suburban traffic to the RER E.
Gare du Nord and Gare de l'Est will be connected with a pedestrian tunnel, especially Gare de l'Est with the RER E station Magenta.
The RER E provides a link to the CBD (Haussmann Saint Lazare) and will serve La Défense by 2020.
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Old October 17th, 2012, 09:44 PM   #1192
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Old October 19th, 2012, 09:12 AM   #1193
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Fixed!

BTW, I remember (as if it was yesterday) when this station was 'abandoned' and of course open air/uncovered.

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Old October 19th, 2012, 02:03 PM   #1194
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and why was abandoned? or it was there from the beginning? Boulainvilliers was opened in 1988, while the line was there from 1900.
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Old October 19th, 2012, 05:28 PM   #1195
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I do not know why and when the station was closed, I believe it was because of the insufficient traffic.

This station reopened in 1988 as part of the VMI project of the RER C.
(VMI) Vallée de Montmorency - Invalides line.
This line was created by merging and modernizing old lines to link the northwestern suburbs to Central Paris.

Some picture of Boulainvilliers before the reopening
1984

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1986 during the work.

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Old October 19th, 2012, 08:16 PM   #1196
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Thank you for sharing this pics. Actually the entire RER section between Boulainvilliers and Pont Cardinet, was built on the former Vallée de Montmorency - Invalides railway. They just covered the trenches, hence the wide streets above RER.
Here is the the path of RER between Boulainvilliers and Pont Cardinet.
https://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...a=1,2,3&num=10
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The VMI (Vallée de Montmorency - Invalides) did not exist before its opening in 1988. It was planned in the 1970's.
This line is the merging of the several part of old lines.
Most notably
-Auteuil line (Petite Ceinture): between Avenue Henri Martin and Pereire Levallois)
-Petite Ceinture: between Pereire Levallois and Porte de Clichy (Porte de Clichy is build on new infrastructure and not on the former PC).
-Docks line or La Plaine - Ermont-Eaubonne line: between Saint Ouen and Ermont Eaubonne (Saint Ouen is also build on new infrastructure).

Boulainvilliers station opened in 1900 with a railway link between the Auteuil line and Invalides line called "raccordement de Boulainvilliers" to serve the Exposition Universelle of 1900.
This railway was closed in 1937 and it reopened in 1988 with the RER C.

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Here is the the path of RER between Boulainvilliers and Pont Cardinet.
https://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&sou...a=1,2,3&num=10
This is not the path of RER, it is more like the former Auteuil line.
The RER don't serve Pont Cardinet. The track between Pont Cardinet and Pereire Levallois is not in use since 1996 when the railway shuttle between both stations closed.
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Old October 22nd, 2012, 03:45 PM   #1198
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Ermont-Eaubonne
Ermont-Eaubonne is major commuter station in the northwestern outer suburbs.
The station provides an interchange between.
-RER C, VMI branch
-Transilien H, Gare du Nord - Persan-Beaumont
-Transilien H, Gare du Nord - Pontoise
-Transilien J, Saint-Lazare - Ermont-Eaubonne



Platforms of the Transilien J to Saint-Lazare terminal with a VB2N stock.
Ermont-Eaubonne is the last station of the line Saint-Lazare - Ermont-Eaubonne. This line was created in 2006 to suppress the branch to Argenteuil of the RER C

I am standing on the RER C (northbound) platform, a Z 50000 of the Transilien H is visible.





A Z2N of the RER C bound to Pontoise arriving

Two RER C train

A Z 6100 of the Transilien H leaving the station to the north and a RIB bound to Gare du Nord.

RIB and Z2N are leaving the station

Z 6100 and Z 50000



Z 50000 and Z2N arriving at the same time

..but the Z 500000 left the station first. For an obvious reason the RER C and Transilien H (to Pontoise) share track north of Ermont-Eaubonne.
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Old October 28th, 2012, 06:19 PM   #1200
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MI2N and MI09

Two MI09

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