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Old February 8th, 2013, 04:52 PM   #1221
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I continue with the new signage at Chatelet-les-Halles.
These signs are only temporary because the station is being renovated but they have the same design as those that will be installed once the work is completed.





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Old February 8th, 2013, 05:09 PM   #1222
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One good thing, the addition of the geographical direction of the trains on the new sign

Nord, Sud, Est, Ouest = North, South, East, West
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Old February 8th, 2013, 05:31 PM   #1223
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Especially for the RER.
RER lines have many branches and have their terminus farther in periphery.

I hope that the SNCF chose the same signage for its lines, especially the RER C.
Having "East" - "West" would be more understandable than only "Pontoise, Versailles Rive Gauche, Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines" and "Massy Plaiseaux, Versailles Chantier, Dourdan, Saint Martin d'Etampes" for the other side.
If you want to go in the west and you only know that Versailles is in the west, guess what direction you should take ?
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Old February 11th, 2013, 03:06 AM   #1224
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Auber
The newest and oldest rolling stock (MI09 and MS61)

MI84 currently under withdrawal

Some difficulty to close one door.
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Old February 13th, 2013, 09:28 PM   #1225
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Many news from the STIF (Paris area public transportation authority) today :

* Reduced summer service on RER A on B will (finally) start on the third week of July from 2013, one week later than in the past. Reduced summer service reduces the number of train and causes heavy crowdings in the first weeks of July.

* some frequencies are to be increased, especially on RER C and D.

* Vogueo is now officially dead. Only one offer has been made to exploit this boat between Gare d'Austerlitz and Maisons-Alfort, but it was three times more expensive than what STIF was ready to pay for it. Each trip would have costed 36€(!), but only a small part of this would have been paid by passengers.

* As rumors were saying, spare MI84 from RER A are supposed to go on Melun-Juvisy and Melun-Montereau service of D and R line. No details about how this will be done.

* And, last but not least, even if it was two weeks ago, RER E extension to Mantes La Jolie via La Défense was declared of public utility, which means the project is getting to another step and is slowly going to become true.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 12:33 AM   #1226
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Good news for the frequencies increase in early July because in reality the city really become quiet only after the Bastille day.

Choisy le Roi.
I just wanted to take one train in photo and there are three that arrived at the same time.
Express service passing through the station and a local service leaving the station, both trains are bound to Central Paris

The local train is made of one renovated EMU and one non-renovated EMU.

..and a train bound to the southeast outer suburbs arrive in station.
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Old February 15th, 2013, 04:31 PM   #1227
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Any reason why the STIF would like to utilize the MI 84 on a portion of the RER D and on Suburban line R? Are these areas of lower frequency/traffic?
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Old February 15th, 2013, 09:09 PM   #1228
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Any reason why the STIF would like to utilize the MI 84 on a portion of the RER D and on Suburban line R? Are these areas of lower frequency/traffic?
I think there are older trains there waiting to be replaced. Also it's kind of a shame to scrap MI84 stock as it's not that old, I heard it was in a bad shape though.
In their press release they say it is a temporary way to bring more comfort and reliability for commuters there, until a new rolling stock is ordered. I guess they think it's possible to bring them there without massive renovation, as they are not supposed to stay for a long time.
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Old February 16th, 2013, 12:54 AM   #1229
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Except as supplementary stock for the RER B, I don't see where the MI84 could be use.
It is true that the RER D lacks of trains but the SNCF is not in favor to use the former line A stock for it.
The STIF will buy second hand Z2N built in 1996 for some commuter service in Lille area.


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Old February 20th, 2013, 10:48 PM   #1230
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Luxembourg.
The main ticket hall has been renovated.


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Old February 21st, 2013, 12:55 AM   #1231
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I think there are older trains there waiting to be replaced. Also it's kind of a shame to scrap MI84 stock as it's not that old, I heard it was in a bad shape though.
In their press release they say it is a temporary way to bring more comfort and reliability for commuters there, until a new rolling stock is ordered. I guess they think it's possible to bring them there without massive renovation, as they are not supposed to stay for a long time.
In fact these are just stupid declarations made by some politicians wanting to gain support from the people (Valerie Pecresse).

The Mi84 as they are right now, cannot run on SNCF dedicated tracks that are equipped with the KVB (Speed control by beacons) a train protection system used by the SNCF to control the speed of trains, as the Mi84 trains do not have this system and many others.

The trainsets have a special authorization by the SNCF to run to Saint Lazare train station on special occasions (trouble on line A preventing trains to go east after Nanterre or because of strikes...).

Also, the plaforms used on the southern part of the D line, are low height platforms, so the trains will be very hard to access and "against the law" by 2015, as a law will make it mandatory that all public places be accessible to handicapped people.

Finally, all Mi84 trainsets are owned and maintained by the RATP, so transferring and small number of trainsets to the SNCF will increase maintenence costs due to not having the necessary parts on the SNCF side...
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Old February 21st, 2013, 02:19 AM   #1232
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Also, the plaforms used on the southern part of the D line, are low height platforms, so the trains will be very hard to access and "against the law" by 2015, as a law will make it mandatory that all public places be accessible to handicapped people.
In theory because, we all know that not all the the public places will be accessible by 2015, especially the metro.
But anyway all your points are true, I don't see where the MI84 could be used, expected in the RER B.

There is also another problem, MI84 are in bad shape, they need a major renovation.
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Old February 26th, 2013, 11:43 PM   #1233
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Z50000 trains have gap fillers for low platforms.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 08:39 AM   #1234
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Is there a mechanism for people using wheel chairs?
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Old February 27th, 2013, 03:37 PM   #1235
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I don't know if the gap fillers of the Z50000 can be adapted to wheel chairs in the station with a low platform like that.

I think that they need the help of the station staff.
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Are RER and Transilien the only trains stopping at those low-platform stations? if so, are there any plans (however far in the future) to update the platform height?
Never understood the reason for having so low platforms these days.
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Old February 27th, 2013, 06:14 PM   #1237
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The SNCF traditionally uses low platforms (suburban and mainline train).
It is expensive to update all the platform. It is planned for some lines but not all.
The platforms on the northern section of the RER B have been heightened.
The SNCF network is big and made of several former private networks, so situation is not homogeneous.

In the oposite the RATP traditionally uses high platform. The RER A and the southern section of the RER B always had high platforms.
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Old March 5th, 2013, 12:13 AM   #1238
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Gare de Lyon (south bound platforms)



I don't want to be bad with the SNCF but the line 14 has been extended to Olympiades in 2007, almost 6 years ago.
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Talk about outdated signs.
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Old March 13th, 2013, 08:40 PM   #1240
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Random MI 79 time:

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RER Z8100 Series 8206 at St-Michel Notre-Dame

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RER Z8100 Series 8206 at Gare du Nord

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