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Old March 13th, 2013, 09:45 PM   #1241
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Nice picture.
The renovation of the MI79 is quite slow these day.

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Talk about outdated signs.
It is not like the SNCF and the RATP are the best friends ever.
It is almost a miracle that they can operate the RER A and B together.
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Old March 14th, 2013, 08:29 PM   #1242
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It is not like the SNCF and the RATP are the best friends ever.
It is almost a miracle that they can operate the RER A and B together.
Why is that?
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Old March 15th, 2013, 12:36 AM   #1243
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Rivality between the two of the biggest transportation company in France.
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Old March 15th, 2013, 05:28 AM   #1244
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Old March 15th, 2013, 08:57 PM   #1245
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Old March 16th, 2013, 01:25 AM   #1246
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Gare du Nord

From behind the station
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Old March 16th, 2013, 04:30 AM   #1247
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From" behind the station"
Strange ! The french word is "avant-gare", and you write "behind"
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Old March 19th, 2013, 10:43 PM   #1248
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This will not improve the reputation of the RER D.
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Gang stages 'highway robbery' on Paris suburban train
Tuesday 19 March 2013
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Police in the Paris region have beefed up security on suburban train services after a 20-strong gang stopped a train and robbed its passengers at the weekend. Officials have compared the crime to highway robbery.

Police reinforcements were detailed to the RER suburban train network on Tuesday afternoon, two and a half days after the crime took place, until further notice.

The move followed headlines reporting a “savage attack” in the media Tuesday morning.

The incident in question took place at 10pm on Saturday when a group of youths, about 20 according to witnesses, jumped on a train in the town of Grigny and sounded the alarm to stop it.

The youths, who had their faces covered and were armed with teargas, then worked their way down the carriages, robbing wallets, handbags and mobile phones.

There were eight or nine victims, six of whom have reported being attacked, according to police.

“I was hit and had teargas sprayed in my eyes,” one victim told the press. “They grabbed my girlfriend’s handbag and took my money. It was fast, violent and seemed to be very well organised.”

“It’s like a modern-day stagecoach robbery,” an anonymous police officer commented.
http://www.english.rfi.fr/france/201...s-region-train
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Old March 19th, 2013, 11:40 PM   #1249
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Probably those poor, adorable banlieu kids Luc Besson likes to glorify in his movies, while they destroy French society from the inside :P
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Old March 20th, 2013, 12:15 AM   #1250
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Honestly I don't care of who they are, I only care of what they do.
Anyway, this is not the subject of this thread.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 09:30 PM   #1251
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Quite sad to see a station building end up like that. Still better than being abandoned I suppose.

As for the RER D robbery, it was in the paper here in Belgium today as well, with the addition that a few weeks earlier, a couple of thugs in an Eastern suburb of Marseille thew red flares on the train tracks to make a TGV heading to Nice stop and attempt to board it to rob the people on board. However, since they could not get the doors open, they got nicked by the police to whom they claimed "they were filming a rap music video and a train robbery would fit quite well in that" (yeah, right).

Obvious question: is the RER D's reputation really that bad?
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A fey years since I've been to Paris now, but I remember that northern parts of RER B isn't good and sometimes it's not recommended to use it to and from CDG. But I've never had any problems.
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Old March 20th, 2013, 11:10 PM   #1253
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Obvious question: is the RER D's reputation really that bad?
The reputation is quite bad, not only because of crime but because of service, frequency and regularity.
It was nicknamed the RER poubelle (RER trash).
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A fey years since I've been to Paris now, but I remember that northern parts of RER B isn't good and sometimes it's not recommended to use it to and from CDG. But I've never had any problems.
The difference between the line D and B is that the line D go far in periphery with lower services.
This means that some section can be quite empty.
The RER B mostly serves the inner periphery and is always busy.

There is more crime in the RER B but the worst crimes happen in the RER D because of the lack of passengers in some section and in some hour.

Anyway, you are more likely to have no problem if you take the RER D.
Just avoid to be in an empty car.
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Is that valid for the whole RER B and RER D, or just for the branches of Mitry-Claye and Roissy-Aéroport Charles de Gaulle on RER B and everything north of Gare du Nord on RER D (Pierrefitte-Stains, Garges-Sarcelles, Villiers le Bel-Gonesse, Creil, and so on...).

I mean, if you take at Châtelet a southbound RER D train (Évry, Malesherbes, Melun, etc), or a southbound RER B train (Robinson, Massy, St Rémy lès Chevreuse, etc), is that likely to happen too?

Are RER E services to Chelles-Gournay or Tournan dangerous too?
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Old March 21st, 2013, 10:58 PM   #1255
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There is more crime in the RER B but the worst crimes happen in the RER D because of the lack of passengers in some section and in some hour.
Ok. But that makes RER B not better? I mean, if you just won't to survive, you have a better chance at RER B, but if you just wont a hassle free trip, your money should be at RER D?
Not that I mean that a certain death is a stake here.
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Ok. But that makes RER B not better? I mean, if you just won't to survive, you have a better chance at RER B, but if you just wont a hassle free trip, your money should be at RER D?
I would just not travel on RER north of Gare du Nord if I were afraid.
And I definitely would not travel alone on an empty coach, nor at certain hours.
If I were to use that line, I´d use another train if that existed (a TER bound for Compiègne till Creil, for instance).
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Old March 21st, 2013, 11:41 PM   #1257
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For the RER B, it is more the northern branches.
For the RER D, it is the north and south. The big gang robbery in the article was Grigny in southeastern outer suburbs.
Anyway, don't exaggerate the dangerousness of these sections.

For the RER E, I have never heard anything bad about it.
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Old March 23rd, 2013, 12:14 PM   #1258
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Are RER E services to Chelles-Gournay or Tournan dangerous too?
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For the RER E, I have never heard anything bad about it.
I would consider RER E the safest of the 5 lines.

RER A, B anc C are okay. The only precaution that should be taken is the same than in most major cities : avoid being on your own in an empty car in late service trains, you might be an easy target.

RER D is dodgy southbound and northbound, mugging (at night) and harrassment/swearing at lonely women are issues.
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Old March 27th, 2013, 04:29 PM   #1260
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This red new livery is only for Transilien SNCF stock owned/co-financed by the STIF authority.

For the Mi09, well its a rolling stock the only RATP ordered, not the SNCF, so the livery only display the colours of the RATP which operates the trains and the STIF which co-financed them.

For metro trains, they have yet to show any exterior sign of grey STIF colour (and hope its gona stay that way, don't want to see that grey destroy the green RATP livery).

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And unfortunately, the RATP/STIF have copied the MI 09 for the MF 01 - Line 9. I'm not surprised, nor thrilled.
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